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#41
General Chatter / Re: Weirdest tracker ideas I’v...
Last post by Amaroq Starwind - September 04, 2025, 16:15:23
I see... I had no idea online collab was a thing in the DOS era.

What do you think of the other two things, though? Are they categorizable as "weird"?

Item #2: Okay, I guess the SNES tracker (for homebrew developers) isn't exactly weird... Relatively trivial on PC, requires removable storage on console, not to mention a sample editor/library. Awesome but impractical (LSDj for the GameBoy can at least be taken on the go).

Item #3: A game disguised as a tracker though, I feel like you can't get much weirder than that. (Others are welcome to prove me wrong, however!)
#42
Development Corner / Re: EXPERIMENTAL native host s...
Last post by manx - September 03, 2025, 11:15:34
Quote from: manx on September 02, 2025, 17:32:00RtAudio 6 will take a bit more time.
1.32.03.05 should have working RtAudio 6 support.
#43
Help and Questions / Re: Save as .mptm not .it
Last post by Saga Musix - September 02, 2025, 21:25:04
Quote from: Abrimaal on September 02, 2025, 20:31:36I would like to know how to convert the older 4 channel .xm file to a full mpt module.
It doesn't matter what the source or target format is, the process is always the same as manx explained: You open the Song Properties dialog and change the track type.
Note that conversion between formats is usually lossy and the result will not sound 100% exactly the same.

Quote from: Abrimaal on September 02, 2025, 20:31:36Additional question: Can I import tracker files for other computers (other than Amiga)?
Especially I am interested in ZX Spectrum Beepola tracker and Vortex Tracker.
OpenMPT can import about than 60 module formats, which are all listed on the feature overview page. Formats from computers that are not sample-based are not supported. That includes SID music and ZX Spectrum music. OpenMPT is first and foremost a sample-based tracker, and supporting different sound chips is not on our agenda. You'll have to find external conversion software if you are just interested in pattern data - OpenMPT generally only supports file formats that it can actually play.
#44
Help and Questions / Re: Save as .mptm not .it (fil...
Last post by Abrimaal - September 02, 2025, 20:31:36
QuoteNot sure how that would have happened.
I think I saved the file as .xm file (sorry, it was .xm, not .it)

This time the .it file was saved with all 32 channels, although only 2 are used now in that music sketch.  :D

I would like to know how to convert the older 4 channel .xm file to a full mpt module.
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SOME TIME AFTER
I converted the 4 channel .xm file using:
New MPTM > Append file.xm > Save as .mptm
All notes and sound settings have been preserved.
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but... the base of the music was a .med file (1 pattern only) - it contains different notes.
when I tried to append the song, the music was completely wrong.
Maybe I should try to change pattern numbers or sample names (?)
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Some time after
Additional question: Can I import tracker files for other computers (other than Amiga)?
Especially I am interested in ZX Spectrum Beepola tracker and Vortex Tracker.
The waveforms and sound settings may be lost, I need the patterns and notes only.
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Some time after
Certainly I cannot append these tracker files, but I can append a .wav file, that contains whole music.
Anyway it must be fine-tuned.
Is there any option of fine tuning (auto tuning) a .wav file (that can be treated as a long sample)?
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By the way:
I can help with introducing import of Beepola tracker files.
The structure is quite simple, 2 to 4 channels, 1 instrument (but a few samples are required, because of different fade out values).

 
#45
Development Corner / Re: EXPERIMENTAL native host s...
Last post by manx - September 02, 2025, 18:44:30
Quote from: manx on September 02, 2025, 17:32:00I also just fixed some Clang-specific and BSD-specific warnings, so there should be no other warnings as of r24101 for 1.33. I will backport those fixes to 1.32 once I have verified them.
1.32 r24104
#46
Development Corner / Re: EXPERIMENTAL native host s...
Last post by manx - September 02, 2025, 17:32:00
Quote from: siealex on August 02, 2025, 12:10:48FreeBSD 14.3, Wine 10.12, OpenMPT 1.32.03. Still no luck, compilation fails at 72%.
Quote│ src/openmpt/sounddevice/SoundDeviceRtAudio.hpp:83:23: error: unknown type name 'RtAudioError'; did you mean 'RtAudioErrorType'?                                                                         
We currently do not support RtAudio >= 6, so if you disable that in the settings, it should build without RtAudio.

I also just fixed some Clang-specific and BSD-specific warnings, so there should be no other warnings as of r24101 for 1.33. I will backport those fixes to 1.32 once I have verified them.

RtAudio 6 will take a bit more time.
#47
Help and Questions / Re: Save as .mptm not .it
Last post by manx - September 02, 2025, 05:56:50
In OpenMPT, editing a module is already limited to the features supported by the currently used module format. You can select the module type when creating a new module, see https://wiki.openmpt.org/Manual:_Menus#File.

In order to save the module in a different format, you need to convert the module to the desired format first, and then save it. See https://wiki.openmpt.org/Manual:_Song_Properties#Track_Type and https://wiki.openmpt.org/Manual:_Saving_and_exporting#Saving_tracks.

QuoteOnce I saved a file as .it and it became degraded to 4 channels, many options unavailable.
Not sure how that would have happened.
#48
Help and Questions / Save as .mptm not .it
Last post by Abrimaal - September 01, 2025, 23:26:21
I started a new song.
New module, I imported samples, typed a few base notes.
Now I want to save the file as .mptm to use all features of the tracker.
I Select file type from the list - There is only .it format.

I do not want to save the file as .it

Once I saved a file as .it and it became degraded to 4 channels, many options unavailable.

I am afraid if I save the new music as .it, I will not be able to revert it to .mptm format.
I need help. I leave the computer turned on, MPT is open with an unsaved file, waiting for quick advice.
#49
General Chatter / Re: Weirdest tracker ideas I’v...
Last post by Saga Musix - September 01, 2025, 13:09:14
I wouldn't exactly call online collaboration a weird feature, and in fact it has been done way before any of today's popular online collaboration spaces even existed - in Impulse Tracker. I wrote my master's thesis about an experimental online collaboration feature in OpenMPT (which may see a return in an official OpenMPT build someday, we'll see), and there's some ongoing experiments with adding IT's network protocol to Schism Tracker.
#50
General Chatter / Re: How different is the Adlib...
Last post by Amaroq Starwind - September 01, 2025, 06:15:59
Quote from: Saga Musix on June 07, 2025, 12:10:46Quite honestly: I don't think it's realistic at all. It's not what OpenMPT is made for, and so it's not at all easy to pull off. But if you want to prove me wrong, it's entirely up to you to level up your skills.
I'm with Saga on this. If you truly feel that you can pull it off, then I'd love to see/hear it (especially since it wouldn't require plugins). For whatever my support is worth, you'll have it.