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Help and Questions / Re: New user to OpenMPT who is blind

« Last post by Diamond on August 01, 2017, 20:47:19 »

I'll have to think about that.  It might be possible using some scripting, but again this will be different for each screen reader.  It may be beyond my knowledge of JAWS scripting.  I will have to investigate.

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Help and Questions / Re: New user to OpenMPT who is blind

« Last post by Saga Musix on August 01, 2017, 20:40:58 »

That is correct, Windows queries this data from OpenMPT. It might be possible to instruct the screen reader to automatically speak out this information, but as far as I'm aware there should also be a way in most screen readers to force them to re-read the content of the focussed window?

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Help and Questions / Re: New user to OpenMPT who is blind

« Last post by Diamond on August 01, 2017, 20:37:33 »

Interestingly, the new test build does in fact speak the data when I initially switch to the "Patterns" tab.  This is a good start.  I tested with both JAWS and NVDA.  It would be useful if the data could be spoken as you navigate through the pattern using Arrow keys, Tab, and so on, but I'm not quite sure how to go about it since my guess is that the data is sent through the Windows' Accessibility API and is not actually displayed anywhere on the screen.

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Help and Questions / Re: New user to OpenMPT who is blind

« Last post by Diamond on August 01, 2017, 20:14:33 »

In Notepad, it would read line by line.  This means that for example all first rows of every channel would be read from the first line as you navigate with the Arrow keys.  While visually it probably gives you a good overview of the pattern data, with a screen reader it is somewhat tedious.  Although it might still be useful in some cases.

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Help and Questions / Re: New user to OpenMPT who is blind

« Last post by Saga Musix on August 01, 2017, 20:02:10 »

*sigh* Once again, the pattern editor is a bitmap. A screen reader cannot read bitmaps (unless they support OCR). Hence OpenMPT now provides a description text for the pattern editor, which can contain whatever we want. Which, in this case, is the content of a single cell, because reading out the whole row or even pattern would be rather useless.
The idea here is that the user can read out the current cell's content whenever they like, typically through a special keyboard shortcut in their screen reader.

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Help and Questions / Re: New user to OpenMPT who is blind

« Last post by LPChip on August 01, 2017, 19:56:47 »

I have no experience with screen readers, but would they not read the pattern full row instead of by channel, which is how the player plays it?

Unless you only copy a channel instead of a full pattern to notepad, of course.

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Help and Questions / Re: New user to OpenMPT who is blind

« Last post by Saga Musix on August 01, 2017, 18:37:23 »

Okay, I added an accessible name for the pattern view containing the position in the pattern and the current cell's content. I verified that Windows Narrator can access this information, so hopefully it should also work with other screen readers.
r8677 / OpenMPT 1.27.00.57 should be up on buildbot in a few hours.

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General Chatter / Re: Hi guys!

« Last post by FreezeFlame(Alchemy) on August 01, 2017, 17:47:40 »

Welcome, tacha.

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Help and Questions / Re: New user to OpenMPT who is blind

« Last post by Diamond on August 01, 2017, 17:39:46 »

Oh yes, I forgot channel number as well.  That would definitely be useful.

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Help and Questions / Re: New user to OpenMPT who is blind

« Last post by Diamond on August 01, 2017, 17:37:35 »

I'm all for it.  As I said, I think row number, either column name or number, and cell data should be enough.  More data such as order number might be useful, but too much data being spoken at once might make it too wordy and would slow down productivity in real-time.