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Help and Questions / Re: About WASAPI/WaveRT device switch issue

« Last post by manx on March 27, 2021, 11:15:18 »

Recently discovered that switching from WASAPI Default Device to WaveRT Default Device (PortAudio) sounds the same (not bypassing driver APO filter). Changing from WASA.PI default to others like WaveRT direct device seems to not change or lock to it. Looks like it's a bug, but i'm unsure. Also noticed in status box, there's no 'OK.' message nor 'Exclusive stream'

"Exclusive stream" is only shown for WASAPI mode exclusive streams. "OK" is also not shown for WaveRT devices. In general, the information displayed in the status box is highly backend-dependant.

As to why WaveRT would not bypass any driver APO or other sound-manipulating filters, I cannot tell. This would very likely be a driver problem (like, whatever your driver does here might not be implemented as an APO but instead later in the chain, and thus also affect WaveRT streams).

1. https://youtu.be/FXVRnoFydbs

Switching to WaveRT from a running WASAPI stream (the first switch you did) might not immediately work because WASAPI might not have closed a device yet at the point when WaveRT tries to open it. Also, could you try a different sample format for WaveRT (i.e. 24bit instead of 32bit)?


Regarding the ASIO issue, please also provide the actual assert message.

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Help and Questions / About WASAPI/WaveRT device switch issue

« Last post by jmkz on March 26, 2021, 18:08:50 »

Recently discovered that switching from WASAPI Default Device to WaveRT Default Device (PortAudio) sounds the same (not bypassing driver APO filter). Changing from WASA.PI default to others like WaveRT direct device seems to not change or lock to it. Looks like it's a bug, but i'm unsure. Also noticed in status box, there's no 'OK.' message nor 'Exclusive stream'
Looks like faulty ASIO driver, because corrupts audio device after some device switch.

1. https://youtu.be/FXVRnoFydbs
2. Compressed dump: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wOwt1l8PZxLh04bL5ADtZyjGSjxsgD05/view

Edit: Added pictures, ASIO assert dump, video

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General Chatter / Re: Collaberation or sharing between different DAW's, OpenMPT included

« Last post by LPChip on March 25, 2021, 14:56:38 »

Yeah. I'm still in the process of setting things up, which is why I haven't posted anything regarding the co-op project, but this is what I'm currently thinking of:

I was thinking: we create a module together, samples only and make a song. The collaboration process uses Satellite Sessions to see who is doing wat and be able to quickly work on the song together, even at the same time if desired. Every addition, aside from rendering it into the project is also created in an mptm file and uploaded to a location I specify (I still have to make this).

As project manager, I check the additions and if I approve them, I will download your mptm, copy the samples and patterns and implement it into main song. I will set the volume correctly compared to the rest, possibly apply some VST effects such as EQ to make it sound better and once implemented, remove your track from the Satellite Sessions, rendering the new version (with your name in the track) back.

Once the song is complete, the final mptm version with all samples and VST plugins (if used) are uploaded and shared as group effort. At any time, you may suggest a change to the project by posting about it as a suggestion in the forum. Either the original person can agree and make the changes on their end and resubmit for approval to me, or I can adjust it if I think it will improve the song.

Basically this is what I need to do for it:

1. I'll create a template module that has the plugin inside with the tempo settings set correctly and an instrument setup, ready to stream audio to the project.
2. Provide an upload script where you can upload your module (still have to build one)
3. Make a forum post
4. Actually start the song.

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Help and Questions / Re: Move or Switch sample positions

« Last post by Magnar on March 24, 2021, 21:54:05 »

Thnx, I got it to work now in the Tree view. Don't know why I didn't get it to work first time, but now all is good!

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General Chatter / Re: Collaberation or sharing between different DAW's, OpenMPT included

« Last post by Exhale on March 23, 2021, 21:27:21 »

wow yeah, there seems to be a lot to learn here, but I will get it eventually thanks for pointing it out.
maybe I will be able to join you in that collaboration/test of its abilities... this definately feels like the thing I tested for saga a while back with online modplug, which I presume still has more then enough work to be done, so I havent talked to anyone else on here... I can imagine this would compliment that whole concept very nicely especially when someone has a vst that they cannot share (proprietary software etc)

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General Chatter / Re: Collaberation or sharing between different DAW's, OpenMPT included

« Last post by LPChip on March 22, 2021, 10:51:20 »

Btw, I'm playing with the thought of creating a co-op project where anyone can join in using Satellite Sessions to add something and just see where it goes. Will post details etc here once I got an idea of what we want.

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Help and Questions / Re: Move or Switch sample positions

« Last post by Saga Musix on March 22, 2021, 08:31:30 »

You can drag&drop samples in the Tree View on the left hand of the window, which rearranges not just the sample slots but also automatically updates the pattern data.
No need for using Find&Replace as LPChip suggested, but it's a very powerful tool missing in many trackers, so if you aren't familiar with it yet, I suggest to check that out as well.

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Help and Questions / Re: Move or Switch sample positions

« Last post by LPChip on March 22, 2021, 08:00:02 »

So basically you want to replace all sample 1 with sample 15 in the pattern data?

You can simply do a search/replace, set its reach to all channels and all orders, search for sample 1, and replace with sample 15.

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Help and Questions / Move or Switch sample positions

« Last post by Magnar on March 21, 2021, 22:35:19 »

Hi,
Say I have a Kickdrum on sample pos 1 in a Protracker-module, and I want to move that sample after the song is composed to the sample pos 15.

Is there an easy way to do that so that all pattern-data content also is updated with the move? So that all previous patterns and channels information will move all use of sample pos 1 to 15?

PS!
The most important thing is not the move of the sampledata itself in this process. The most important thing is that all patterndata is updated with new instrument sample pos information.

Any ideas?

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General Chatter / Re: Collaberation or sharing between different DAW's, OpenMPT included

« Last post by LPChip on March 21, 2021, 19:43:38 »

When you put in the midi or audio vst, they will record when the record function is set. Normally they would wait until you hit play, but well.. OpenMPT is technically not supported and does things a little bit differently than any other DAW.

So what you can do is set it to only record once and automatically mute upon recording, then when it starts recording, just hit your play/stop and it should disarm too.

You can also arm/disarm from Satellite Sessions directly by pressing the upload button on each track/stem.

Then start making your pattern and when you are ready to bounce the stem to Satellite Sessions, go there and hit the upload button for all tracks you wish to bounce.

I found out that you can actually record multiple midi and audio tracks at the same time, just not a midi and audio track for the same notes. If you attempt to do that, there is a weird delay inserted into the audio recording.

A simple workaround is to simply play the song twice. First let all the midi tracks record, then let all the audio tracks record.

Also one last thing. If you have audio latency issues, this is a really easy way to record a very CPU intensive track to a temporary time slot so you can mute it in your project and still hear it, so that you can actually work on one instrument at a time without having CPU issues and have a wave representation for all other tracks and work like that one by one. You just bypass the VST effects in OpenMPT so they no longer consume CPU power (or there is probably an even easier way that Saga Musix will point out).

This basically allows you to freeze any channel in place as instrument so it no longer consumes CPU power and still hear the audio. The only drawback is, that you have to listen to the entire length of the song for every render of a track, but it is going to be faster and easier to work with than rendering a channel or instrument to wav, load the sample back in, and create a replacement for your notes. Especially since the Satellite Sessions will correctly sync its position, even midway the pattern, so if you play from row 16 on pattern 29, you will hear exactly what would be playing if you had the notes enabled.