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#11

Help and Questions / Dry/Wet on instrument plugins;...

Last post by huvudläs - May 06, 2024, 11:43:57

What determines if a plugin (VST) is an effect or an instrument (generator)? Is there a way to trick OpenMPT into internally treating one as another?

The problem: I want to use Redux for effect routing (not to generate tones) but OpenMPT treats it differently from an ordinary effect plugin by greying out some of the options in the plugin Mix Settings and changes behavior in some other ways, namely crippling the dry/wet functionality for the plugin.

It of course makes sense that for instruments that only generate tones, letting the user adjust dry/wet doesn't make sense because the input is just MIDI. (This is just my assumption as to why it works like this, would be nice to get a confirmation though.)

The thing is, OpenMPT does let me feed audio to Redux - despite its I/O Type being detected as "No input, Stereo-Out" - like any typical effect plugin, and it goes through just fine, I just cannot adjust the dry signal from OpenMPT's interface (preferably muting it altogether so I could handle d/w inside Redux). So, because the functionality for feeding audio to any type of VST exists, it seems odd that dry is forced at 100% when it's an instrument plugin no matter what the Dry Mix slider is actually set to.

Simply allowing the default mix behavior for any plugin would satisfy my needs. Maybe via an option to manually set the I/O Type in case of misdetections like in Redux's case. Thanks.

#12

Help and Questions / Re: Using AmpleSound VSTs

Last post by Cartman1337 - May 03, 2024, 15:47:51

The manual goes into a bit more detail on page 8: https://www.amplesound.net/en/Main_Panel_Manual-AMH.pdf

Keyswitch is D#-1. When D#-1 is before a note, subsequent note will be Slide In. When D#-1 is
during a note, Slide Out is triggered whose velocity is determined by D#-1. Articulation will
revert to Sustain when note end

D#-1 is most likely D#0 in OpenMPT.

You enter those notes like you would enter any other notes in the pattern. There is nothing special about them, the only special thing is what the plugin makes out of them.

If anyone can be helped by this, I finally figured it out by dragging a MIDI from the instrument over to OpenMPT, something I didn't realize was possible before I saw someone do it in a YouTube tutorial. The correct octave for the instrument to trigger with OpenMPT is 2, so a D#-1, D#0 or D#1 did nothing, but D#2 does. Kind of makes sense, I suppose, since the instrument only plays from C3 to B7 (I think), but now I can finally put it to some better use!

In the mean time, during all my trying and failing, I've also learned some new tricks with macros, which will also come in handy going forward.

#13

General Chatter / Re: Newbie here

Last post by Cillobillo - April 29, 2024, 10:33:48

Any update on how you've come along since Illfigure? Would love to hear.

#14

General Chatter / Re: Awesome Music Videos

Last post by Cillobillo - April 29, 2024, 10:30:04

I've been obsessed with this one, if only I knew why...
https://youtu.be/DeJ3hSWp5RA?feature=shared
Such a great minimalist track.

#15

General Chatter / Re: Making my own music commun...

Last post by Exhale - April 29, 2024, 03:36:54

That was very much not what i was talking about at all. And yes i have tried to help too, entirely besides the point i was making. Using a strawman there.

#16

General Chatter / Re: Making my own music commun...

Last post by n0cturn - April 28, 2024, 17:03:20

Don't agree at all will your comments about this forum, if someone has a problem or a question they are usually helped pretty quickly.

I think if you only look for the negative, that's all your going to find. Lighten up a bit.

#17

General Chatter / Re: Making my own music commun...

Last post by Exhale - April 28, 2024, 13:11:13

Don't know if it's boredom, low testosterone, melancholy, flouride, depression, too much gaming, smart phone fascination, AI madness or just extremely short attention spans that are common nowadays...

I think it is likely that people want solitude, since that is my personal reason for cutting myself off from communities... especially since some communities have malicious bad actors in charge of things, such as these forums.

And yes, please make communities wherever you want, fork ompt and add whatever you want to it. The people in charge here have giant heads and are unable to see past their massive egos. Ompt needs to be freed from their totalitarian grasp.

#18

Help and Questions / Re: Pattern Break (DXX) values...

Last post by Saga Musix - April 27, 2024, 21:44:09

The best way you can avoid this problem is by making sure it's impossible for OpenMPT (or other software with similar heuristics) to assume that the module was made with NoiseTracker by using effect commands not supported by NoiseTracker; in that case ProTracker effect interpretation will always come into play. The easiest way is to simply have a tempo command in the first pattern: Even if you use the default 125 BPM tempo, just put an F7D effect in the first pattern next to the F06 and the module will no longer be assumed to be a NoiseTracker module (as NoiseTracker didn't support the tempo command).

#19

Help and Questions / Re: Pattern Break (DXX) values...

Last post by TipTopTomCat - April 27, 2024, 21:40:56

Good to know! I think from that and after some experimenting, I just have to make sure that I don't re-open and re-save a song with a DXX value until that fix. Looking forward to the next version then!

#20

Help and Questions / Re: Pattern Break (DXX) values...

Last post by Saga Musix - April 27, 2024, 21:25:41

This was caused by an overzealous detection of NoiseTracker modules and is already fixed for the next OpenMPT update: https://bugs.openmpt.org/view.php?id=1765

The correct value is saved in the file, but it is ignored when loading it.