Started by Alex TEHb, August 15, 2020, 04:53:10
Quote from: zikey on November 19, 2020, 20:42:07But there's 38,149 XM files on Modland. 76,420 MOD files. HVSC has 52,884 SID files so far. You look at the KVR OSC (one synth challenge), and there's only 40 songs per synth that demonstrate a synth's capabilities. Despite the fact every single one is more capable than SID or XM.
QuoteMPTM and XRNS aren't successors because they no longer act as standalone modules, they're just project/session files.
Quote from: Saga Musix on November 20, 2020, 18:35:36There are thousands of songs using those plugins featured in KVR OSC as well. It's just that most people are not going to label their music as being made with those synths. I'm not sure what the point here is.
Quote from: zikey on November 22, 2020, 00:08:08I want the source file to play by themselves, without extra setup for external dependencies.
Quote from: zikey on November 22, 2020, 00:08:08VST is out of sync with those ideals and is really just desperation to appeal to a changing industry. MadTracker, Sk@le and Renoise are also guilty. OpenMPT's bleeding edge is really just a mere sequencer that just sends MIDI data to plugins rather than something that can compete or blossom with its own sound engine.
Quote from: zikey on November 22, 2020, 00:08:08I don't want to choose between highly restrained chiptune formats or squeaky clean DAW recordings. I want the middle ground that doesn't exist, I want fancy synths in music formats that play in the browser via WebAssembly and xmplay/foobar2k.
QuoteI would challenge the notion that trackers offer the same set of features as regular DAWs
QuoteBut at that point I would say that those are no longer trackers, but DAWs with a weird vertical layout.
QuoteIn a DAW there is generally no limit of commands one can apply to a note.
QuoteThere are also many UI complications that, on the one hand, allow to do some things in a tracker easier, but for the most part make very basic things harder. Looking at what is basically a spreadsheet is geeky and fun and I personally love it, but I also recognize that a piano roll allows me to understand what's going on much faster and makes it trivial to move notes around.
QuoteThe fact that modern trackers treat a track as a mixer track is kind of problematic
QuoteSo, trackers are probably not going to go away completely, just like Amiga games are not going away completely. There are always geeks out there or people to whom the tracker interface simply speaks. But in terms of actual versatility, I think trackers are definitely very limited tools. Super fun - and I love them - but I don't see them being more than a very niche geeky thing.
Quotethe more powerful and involved a tracker is, the harder it is to learn.