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Help and Questions / Re: Octane VST

« Last post by Saga Musix on April 25, 2021, 11:02:43 »

Interesting, I never had similar scenario with any VST instrument.

It's not entirely uncommon. Some plugins don't like the CCs OpenMPT sends when pausing plugin playback (which seems to be the case here), and other plugins don't expect the host to constantly open and close plugin playback, because OpenMPT does this very differently compared to other hosts.

Just tested this now. After pressing the "Panic" button (interesting name), no sounds play when trying to play more notes.

Okay, that confirms that the plugins probably doesn't like one of the MIDI CCs OpenMPT is sending, and it's something that is fixable in OpenMPT.

OpenMPT sends three MIDI CCs when restarting playback or pressing the Panic button:
- CC 120 (All Sound Off)
- CC 121 (All Controllers Off)
- CC 123 (All Notes Off)

I have attached a test module which should help finding the culprit among these three. Please load Octane into that module and associate it with the first instrument. Then play the module. Optimally it should play four scales, but will probably stop playing any sound at row 16, 32 or 48. Can you tell me at which point it stops playing anything?

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Help and Questions / Re: Octane VST

« Last post by Cartman1337 on April 25, 2021, 10:46:42 »

Can you try the following: After associating the plugin with an instrument, play some notes in the instrument editor to confirm that it still works. Then press the Panic button (speaker with red cross next to the VU meters) and try playing more notes. Does it still work?

Just tested this now. After pressing the "Panic" button (interesting name), no sounds play when trying to play more notes.

Interesting, I never had similar scenario with any VST instrument.
So, if you start ModPlug Tracker, just load your previously created music project with this VST, and then hit F6 for whole song playback, then there will be no sound until you open its window?
I am curious what happens when you are using export to wav, is there still no sound?
Have you contacted the author of this plugin?

No, you're right; if I start the tracker, load a project with this VST and hit F6 (or F5) to play the song, no sound is heard until I open its window (and by opening its window a crash is pending, whenever playback ends). If I export the song, the output wav is also completely silent.

No, I haven't contacted the author of the plugin yet. Like I said initially, I'm not sure where the problem lies. From reviews I've seen online, the VST seem to work with various other programs. But the problem may very well be poor programming on their part, not being completely compliant to VST standards, or whatever.

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Help and Questions / Re: Octane VST

« Last post by Speed on April 25, 2021, 10:33:36 »

Interesting, I never had similar scenario with any VST instrument.
So, if you start ModPlug Tracker, just load your previously created music project with this VST, and then hit F6 for whole song playback, then there will be no sound until you open its window?
I am curious what happens when you are using export to wav, is there still no sound?
Have you contacted the author of this plugin?

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Help and Questions / Re: Octane VST

« Last post by Saga Musix on April 25, 2021, 10:06:03 »

Can you try the following: After associating the plugin with an instrument, play some notes in the instrument editor to confirm that it still works. Then press the Panic button (speaker with red cross next to the VU meters) and try playing more notes. Does it still work?

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Development Corner / OpenMPT User's Systems Statistics

« Last post by manx on April 25, 2021, 07:52:19 »

In the past, I semi-regularly posted system statistics that we gathered from the anonymous statistics collection which is optionally available via the Update Settings. These statistics are from now on available and updated daily at https://buildbot.openmpt.org/statistics/.

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Help and Questions / Octane VST

« Last post by Cartman1337 on April 25, 2021, 07:36:51 »

Have anyone tried to use the Octane VST (https://sonicsounds.com/product/octane/) with OpenMPT successfully? It's cheap VST, but it has some cool sounds, so it would be great to get it working with OpenMPT.

The setup program installs both a 32 and 64 bit dll in the appropriate VST folders, and both are possible to connect in OpenMPT via the plugin manager. I can also connect it to an instrument, open the plugin editor to select a sound, and after doing so I also get sounds when putting notes down in a pattern. However, if I try to play the pattern, all sound disappear, and after playback the notes no longer play if I try to add more notes.

I'm able to get sounds while playing a pattern by opening the instrument editor (the "plugin" button in the pattern editor) and keeping it open in a separate window during playback, but I sometimes have to reselect the instrument in the plugin window. However, when playback stops, OpenMPT hangs, with the OpenMPT Plugin Bridge program consuming a lot of CPU, and I have to end it from the task manager, so it's not really very practical.

Not sure which program is most at fault here. I haven't got very much experience with VSTs, and only have one more in addition to this one. That one, however, works excellently with OpenMPT.

Would be interesting to hear if anyone else have any experience with this VST, or if anyone have any tips of getting it to work better with OpenMPT.

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Free Music Downloads / {psy-trance} Grapple Hook (ogg)

« Last post by Exhale on April 24, 2021, 13:27:29 »

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Dzlq5f_viOL87b7QzSe9LRwfGryoTe-O/view?usp=sharing

150 bpm heavy driving tune... if you are on earphones you will want to turn down until you can be sure of a comfortable volume.

and yeah - I am planning on adding words and singing to it, I have words already... but if you would like to contribute... so far it is about my depression... a titan that ravages a city, an allegory for my body and depression thoughts... and the chorus is me purely singing my thoughts... so if you have anything that will fit that, feel free to point me in that direction

I will keep the clean version up and make one with the words and there can be two versions for people to choose from

FINAL EDIT:
Here is the tune with vocals, mixed as well as I can
I hope you enjoy it
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tW55bEbRtZrULx3SwkdQWUHfHi7MiXAq/view?usp=sharing

words:
TRIGGER WARNING... these words I have written are about my depression -
the first verses are an imaginary city that is a pretty picture of the struggles going on in my mind.
the chorus has nothing held back... my direct thoughts
=
=
=
the titan looms above the city
his size a daunting travesty
get all the biggest guns and all weapons

he wont want to rule, he wants to destroy all we built
is this the way it is now?
struggling against he who wont see?

its him or us, everything to lose, everything to gain
we're a team or dead, he'll take us all, into his gaping maw!

Take out all the swords,
every piece of hardware you have
we can cut off his head
if we can get onto his sholders

the enemy of all civilization,
the mighty with no connection
callous are his thoughts as he crushes us
desolation is his name
=
can we strategise with the tools we have?
can we improvise as he moves?
I have a plan, take a look,
we can climb him with my grappling hook

x2
(imp)
----

then I ask, what is the point of it,
why do I keep holding on? can I find a reason for one more day?
if I just sleep maybe tomorrow will,
show me a reason to stay. Or maybe I should fight again!

then I scream, what is the point of it?
no one wants what I have! I'm a fish out of water!
and we dont even know what water is!
will we ever change? Will I make it to that day?!

x4
(nokick)
Aaaaaaa

after his fill he moves on, never once giving a fuck
we never (manage to) stop him, empty eyes in the throng

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Help and Questions / Re: Allow instruments to overlap on same MIDI channel - Not working?

« Last post by NorrinRadd22 on April 23, 2021, 11:03:17 »

The solo channels is somewhere I can start. I'll report back!

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Help and Questions / Re: Allow instruments to overlap on same MIDI channel - Not working?

« Last post by Saga Musix on April 23, 2021, 08:54:22 »

Is there no functionality for this in the modern MPT? Seems really weird to have just taken out, especially if it used to be in there.

It wasn't really "taken out", it's more like that the entire MIDI export had to be rewritten (you may remember that the old MIDI export was very basic and didn't support most pattern commands) at some point and a completely different approach for converting the song data was chosen. The new approach isn't really compatible with per-channel export, but I'll see what can be done to improve the situation.

For the time being, as you are just working with a small amount of channels, you can probably export 6 MIDI files and before each export put a different channel in solo mode. MIDI export respects muted channels, so you will essentially get 6 files with the contents of each channel, but you'd still have to merge the instrument tracks in each file into a single track before you could proceed.
Alternatively, as you mentioned that the program changes are not important for you, you could use Find & Replace to turn your track into 6 unique instruments, but obviously that is only a solution for when the track writing is finished. Find & Replace can work on ranges of instrument numbers and can be limited to only replace data in a single channel.

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Help and Questions / Re: Allow instruments to overlap on same MIDI channel - Not working?

« Last post by NorrinRadd22 on April 23, 2021, 07:53:03 »

Certainly. In my case I am taking one of my own 6channel 8bit NES chiptune .it files and exporting it in to Cubase to turn it in to a Sega Genesis style chiptune with some guitar tracking over it. A lot of the instruments in my 8bit chiptune are just variations of the same instrument. For example, a Square wave that has a different attack, or a different duty cycle or whatever. Very minor stuff which all still falls under the category of the single performed instrument. For all intents and purposes, think of it as velocity key switches or something. I don't need to find a new instrument for a 12% duty cycle and a 25% duty cycle when I am just going to treat them as a guitar patch in Sega Genesis format. I just need the midi information, and I need it contained to one channel like it is in my .it file.

In my case it would be easier to take the original 6 channels and decide where they may need to have new instruments from within Cubase. Not have all instruments on their own midi and look like Swiss cheese in my Cubase.

Is there no functionality for this in the modern MPT? Seems really weird to have just taken out, especially if it used to be in there.