Did you know that demoscene is a secretive criminal society?

Louigi Verona · August 04, 2009, 06:43:54

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/San_Diego_GOP_chairman_cofounded_international_0425.html

g · August 04, 2009, 07:49:42

I think the title of your post should be "Did you know that warez scene is a secretive criminal society?".

Saga Musix · August 04, 2009, 07:57:14

Boo, how can you confuse fairlight cracks with fairlight demos? The people behind those are not the same (though one group origins from the other of course). Thanks for correcting g.

Louigi Verona · August 04, 2009, 13:09:12

If you read the article carefully, you will see that the article mixes the two effectively.

Also read here:
http://www.pouet.net/topic.php?which=5278&page=1&x=19&y=9

Saga Musix · August 04, 2009, 13:25:39

as you might have seen, i have even participated in that thread over a year ago, so... old news :\

Louigi Verona · August 04, 2009, 13:26:23

Yep, but someone brought it up today on pouet )

Saga Musix · August 04, 2009, 13:27:44

old news, you are talking to a pouet addict. :\

Louigi Verona · August 04, 2009, 13:31:20

What is the point of repeatedly telling me that it is old news? Can't I post a topic about something that is not new or is this a news site?

Saga Musix · August 04, 2009, 13:33:46

Sorry, am I not allowed to have fun?

psishock · August 04, 2009, 13:40:30

I am not a pouet addict, and haven't heard of this "news", so i thank LV for posting it. It's somewhat a common phenomena however, that ppl are misunderstanding and mixing totally different stuff (warez scene/demo scene) if they're not really in the picture. The bad stuff is, that ppl, who read these news in papers, and have no knowledge about these stuff neither, will believe the written (mis)information, and will learn/spread it that way.

QuoteSorry, am I not allowed to have fun?

well sure you do, but it seemed that LV didn't felt, that you're just messing with him.

uncloned · August 04, 2009, 13:44:03

the connection is justified because demos were created to show off the skills of the people making the warez back in the days of 8 bit computing.

the demo community came from the warez community - at one time they were the same community.

Saga Musix · August 04, 2009, 13:47:31

Well, as for "normal" people, they don't even get the chance to mix the two up - because most of them are not even aware of the existance of the demoscene. At most, they know Cracktros with stolen scenemusic.

psishock · August 04, 2009, 13:50:09

you're saying uncloned, that the same people who actually cracked the protection codes, coded the 2d/3d animations and designed the artistic demo runs? These two profession needs totally different technical knowledge imho. (ok programming - programming, but that's a hugely wide area)

Saga Musix · August 04, 2009, 13:51:46

You may think so but that's wrong. It was in fact the crackers who added intros to their cracked games. Later, those intros became independent. And there was nothing like 3D or "design" back then.

psishock · August 04, 2009, 13:58:18

well i know what ya mean, but those scrolling cracktro-s are one thing to me, and "demos" are yet totally different (we had/have many cool 2s stuff, don't have to think about the 3d only, it was just an example). I think it probably "divided" when we stopped talking about "crackto group introductions" and started to think about the artistic demonstrations.