MODPlug Wiki Article

Saga Musix · February 01, 2009, 15:44:18

Just like the article of MilktyTracker (which has been deleted several times already) or XMPlay (which has been deleted half a year ago), the article about MODPlug is maybe going to be deleted at some point. If someone feels like saving the article about our nice tracker, can you help fixing and extending it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ModPlug_Tracker

maleek · February 01, 2009, 18:14:27

I read the discussion over at the talk page. I don't understand why they would want to pull the article?

Btw:
Wasn't Modplug the first Windows tracker out there? That would make a very good addition to the wiki-article if it were.

Saga Musix · February 01, 2009, 18:43:25

Yeah, but that's not very "notable" in the eyes of a wikipedian.

Sam_Zen · February 01, 2009, 19:15:08

it's not up to date, but has some links and doesn't do any harm. why delete it ?

Saga Musix · February 01, 2009, 19:25:01

Well, if they accepted any article, Wikipedia would be really bloated. So they try to delete articles about "not so important stuff" - which openMPT really is _not_ IMO.

psishock · February 01, 2009, 19:26:29

I guess it's the standard story Sam, the servers are not free, they needs a lot of maintenance, they are keeping only the "valuable" information. If they think something is not notable enough, they will just trash it like they did many times in the past.

Sam_Zen · February 01, 2009, 19:31:34

Yep, I understand. If it's part of maintenance, then it's more acceptable.

maleek · February 01, 2009, 19:42:11

Still, I would think that if any tracker should be part of Wikipedia (and why should it not?). Then Modplug Tracker is up there with FT2, Impulse Tracker Renoise and Buzz. It has been part of an important cultural movement that is every bit as important as music written by traditional bands.

Relabsoluness · February 01, 2009, 20:57:51

At the beginning the complaint was that there wasn't 3rd party reference. After someone added reference to magazine, where Modplug Tracker was listed among the 'Top Trackers', the complaint changed to not being significant enough, along with explanation in essence that no matter how popular, it's not 'notable' if not having significant coverage.

A reference: Modplug player used in apparently notable demoparty (link) as a mod-competition player.

Sam_Zen · February 01, 2009, 20:57:53

QuoteWasn't Modplug the first Windows tracker out there?

Nope. I tried Mod4Win shortly, in 3.11.. A buggy disaster.

QuoteIt has been part of an important cultural movement

You've got a strong point there. Tracking is a very specific way of composing contemporary music, with its ow rules and tools. So it definitely should stay mentioned in a Wiki.
I agree, that this article is quite outdated. The MP player is an archive thing.
And it needs more data about the developments of OMPT.
So, if someone writes some more lines on this page, it will not be wiped ?

Saga Musix · February 01, 2009, 21:01:34

Sam: Mod4Win is not a tracker, though.

Sam_Zen · February 01, 2009, 21:13:43

It isn't ? Well, I tried to forget about 3.11 anyway..

Saga Musix · February 01, 2009, 21:44:36

From what I know, it was a mod player, wasn't it? That's also what the wiki article says.

Sam_Zen · February 01, 2009, 21:56:06

Yep, it was a player.

maleek · February 02, 2009, 00:30:52

Maybe the cultural argument could "work" on the Wiki-people? I don't have an account over there, but someone else could perhaps mention that to them. There are still big demo-parties around where people enter compos with tracked modules.