Started by musicalman, January 12, 2022, 16:29:44
Quote from: musicalman on January 12, 2022, 16:29:44I guess my main question here is wondering if I'm right. If I am, then the difference between a blind and sighted workflow seems huge, and my next question is if that gap can be narrowed with practice and customization, or if this is just something I'm going to have to get used to. I know there's no definite answer for that, but it's something I'm trying to figure out.
Quote from: musicalman on January 12, 2022, 16:29:44Now for the musical stuff. First is drums. How do people sketch out and do drum patterns? I've seen some pretty intricate drum sequencing in modules, and I'll be honest, it's a little intimidating. I just can't imagine how people can write that stuff out!
Quote from: musicalman on January 12, 2022, 16:29:44Most if not all modules I've looked at take this approach. And I'd like to as well, but sketching is going to be really hard then, unless I'm missing something?
Quote from: musicalman on January 12, 2022, 16:29:44Finally, layering. Either putting two instruments together to make a thicker sound, or using echo channels. Duplicating/Copy-pasting is easy enough, but I often find myself needing to go back and change things eg. cutting a note off a row earlier, or tweaking an effect parameter. The prospect of editing the main channel plus 1, 2 or more echo channels or layers is simply daunting for me. Is this just something to get used to, or is there a way to make this easier?
Quote from: Saga Musix on January 12, 2022, 17:41:57I imagine that being able to read out surrounding notes could be really interesting, but it largely depends on the situation which notes you'd want to access that way. I know I have been promising it for over ten years now, but maybe when OpenMPT's scripting API finally becomes reality, it could assist here so that users can write their own scripts which announce whatever surrounding context they want to Windows' accessibility API.
Quote from: Saga Musix on January 12, 2022, 17:41:57I guess it depends on what you consider as intricate. To be honest, some of the most interesting complex rhythms can be created by choosing a percussion sample and semi-randomly mashing keys while the pattern is running.
Quote from: Saga Musix on January 12, 2022, 17:41:57Even if I want to change something after echo channels have been created already, I don't manually copy over notes - I just copy the whole channel over again. It's really not much work that way.
Quote from: musicalman on January 12, 2022, 20:34:36I need to investigate options for getting audible feedback when I'm moving around.
Quote from: Saga Musix on January 12, 2022, 20:49:03I guess some options that may be of interest are "play whole row while recording" and "play notes when transposing" in the general settings. Another trick you can try is to bind both the "play row" shortcut and navigation shortcuts to the same key (one on Key Up and the other on Key Down, or alternatively by setting the "AllowMultipleCommandsPerKey" setting to 1 in the advanced settings). that way you can listen to rows while navigating. It's not quite perfect because "Play Row" by itself already advances the cursor by one row, but maybe I can add a variant of that shortcut which doesn't do that, if it would be helpful for you.
Quote from: Saga Musix on January 12, 2022, 21:16:26The main reason why I think the shortcut method may make sense is because I'd imagine that you wouldn't always want to navigate with immediate preview, so you could e.g. use Cursor Down to go to the next row, but Alt + Cursor Down to go to the next row with preview. Maybe another idea would to have a shortcut that toggles immediate preview, so that you can turn off the preview whenever you want and then turn it back on when required?
Quote from: musicalman on January 12, 2022, 23:16:13Hmm. I feel like play current row without advancing was proposed and rejected at some point? This would admittedly have been ages ago though, but yeah I wasn't sure what the current thoughts were on it. Glad it's being considered!
Quote from: QuantumRain on January 13, 2022, 04:11:12I don't know your musical background and correct me if I'm wrong, but your first post leaves me with the impression that you've read a lot about music theory and get very discouraged by trying to work with techniques that sound good on paper but are actually quite complex and advanced.
Quote from: QuantumRain on January 13, 2022, 04:11:12As Saga Musix has already suggested, you should only venture into tinkering with layering or different envelopes for a sample at the very end, or even skip these techniques altogether. It's almost always better to start as simple as possible and build on that, rather than start very complex and end up with nothing.