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How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« on: February 07, 2020, 05:13:07 »
I wanted to know if there is a limit to how many patterns you can have in a song. I don't think I will ever have an issue of not having enough patterns to be able to finish a song and I have only ever used up to 15 patterns in one song. I just wanted to know if there is a limit and what that limit is.

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Re: How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2020, 07:42:59 »
That depends on the song format. Some of the limits can be found here: https://wiki.openmpt.org/Manual:_Saving_and_exporting#Compatibility_Export
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Re: How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2020, 15:36:38 »
What about Impulse Tracker for example, how many patterns are you allowed to have using that format?
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Re: How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2020, 15:40:55 »
IT supports about 200 patterns. MPTM supports the most patterns (4000).
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Re: How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2020, 17:57:32 »
Thanks for the info. I don't ever see anyone really needing to use even 50 patterns for a single song, but 4000 patterns is quite a lot for MPTM.

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Re: How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2020, 00:46:30 »
It's great for music that uses a lot higher precision with much faster tempo, where several patterns represent a bar rather than just one.

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Re: How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2020, 12:04:06 »
There are also reasons for putting several songs into a single file, e.g. for game soundtracks, and that can require several hundreds of patterns, too.
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Re: How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2020, 17:56:29 »
So if you have multiple songs in one file can you switch between each individual song or do you have to start from the beginning of the first song in that file?

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Re: How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2020, 20:20:15 »
Do you mean in OpenMPT or when using such a song in a game? When using MPTM's multi-sequence feature, you can put each song in its own order list (sequence) and easily listen to the songs separately export all of them into separate streaming files, but for other formats you will have to point the pattern editor at the correct starting position in the order list to listen to individual songs. Audio players like XMPlay can automatically detect those starting positions and let you play specific subsongs without having to listen to the whole file but that's entirely application-specific.
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Re: How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2020, 20:49:18 »
I mean't in OPENMPT, also is there a way to add more channel effects slots to the pattern editor?

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Re: How many patterns can you have in any given song?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2020, 21:25:51 »
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