Author Topic: vxx commands toggle: send to plug or self-manage  (Read 4531 times)

Offline bvanoudtshoorn

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vxx commands toggle: send to plug or self-manage
« on: October 10, 2007, 09:52:11 »
A lot of plugs don't seem to respond to vxx commands, although some do. It'd be nice if there was a toggle-able option to either send these commands through to the plug as midi messages (the current behaviour), or have them directly influence the plug's volume (preferably separately to the gain...) This would mean that any plug could be volume controlled on a per-note basis. It'd also allow you to bounce the volume around while you're not sending any more note messages... You could do the classic:
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| C-5 v64 |
| --- v12 |
| --- v64 |
| --- v12 |
| --- v64 |
| --- v12 |
| --- --- |
| --- --- |

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Re: (S=A) vxx commands toggle: send to plug or self-ma
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2008, 21:02:58 »
Quote from: "bvanoudtshoorn"
A lot of plugs don't seem to respond to vxx commands, although some do.

It's better if they don't because currently wrong MIDI messages are sent to plug on vxx command(when used without a note), and using the vxx commands with plugs can really mess up the plug parameters.

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vxx commands toggle: send to plug or self-manage
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2008, 01:32:23 »
Oh... I use the vxx command all the time, and haven't found that it messes anything up. Kontakt definitely receives the command as a velocity, so maybe there's a bug in one of the plugs you're using?

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vxx commands toggle: send to plug or self-manage
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2008, 02:40:32 »
Sorry, I was not exact there: it works ok when used with note on the same row, but when used without note, then things go wrong. It's easy to see with some plugs: trying to make volume fade with vxx like
|C-501......
|.....v64...
|.....v60...
|.....v55...
|.....v51...
|.....v47...
|.....v43...
|.....v38...
|.....v34...
|.....v30...
|.....v26...
|.....v21...
|.....v17...
|.....v13...
|.....v09...
|.....v04...
|.....v00...

can change many parameters in those cases - this happens for example with Superwave P8 and String theory 1.5. And the actual bug is that it sends wrong message in these cases; actually many plugs seem to respond to the MIDI volume message when such is sent.

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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2008, 02:44:54 »
Yeah, I see what you mean. Kontakt doesn't seem to do anything with those other ones at all. :(

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vxx commands toggle: send to plug or self-manage
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 07:14:24 »
Maybe a really late reply, but can we consider this to be forfilled?
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