What can i do with a midi keyboard?

kit beats · June 23, 2007, 18:41:51

The thing is, i buy samples..a lot of samples.

Now i want to make my own samples, with a keyboard i guess.

Or am i totally wrong?

LPChip · June 23, 2007, 20:02:31

Quote from: "Samplekit"The thing is, i buy samples..a lot of samples.

Now i want to make my own samples, with a keyboard i guess.

Or am i totally wrong?

You could sample the sounds from your keyboard, but what you're after can also be archieved without a keyboard. If its purelly for the sounds of the keyboard, then its a very expensive solution.

Many keyboards also have a VST Instrument representation.

For instance, From my head, you've posted a Korg Wavestation keyboard. Korg also has the sounds in software form. Do a google for Korg Novastation (which is a suite with WaveStation in it. They have a demo version of their plugin which will give you some noise every now and then, but it allows you to see how well the plugins are. You can then use it to sample from, or when you're ready, you can use the VSTi directly in OpenMPT, which will give a much richer sound than sampling can every give you. (just less features, but that should be elimiated somewhere in the future.)

Besides, there are tons of other VSTi's and also free ones, which you can use to sample from too.

But if you also want to use the keyboard to play on, then other things are at stake too.

Its a matter of what you want really. Just sampling, no other toying around, then certainly not buy a keyboard, but look out for (much cheaper) VSTi's.

EDIT: my bad... I read novastation... but its Novation. Okay, this keyboard is probably not available in VSTi form, but I'm sure there are tons of VSTi's that can get equal sound.

Btw, to give you an indication of what I mean with hardware vs software:

Here's Korg's site about their software recreation of their original Hardware, along with demo's and everything: http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=KLC1D&category_id=8

kit beats · June 23, 2007, 21:26:27

Thanks LPchip,

Can you tell me, what is that software?
Where i can put my vst instruments in and make samples, easy..just play the sound (on a keyboard on or off screen) and record!

I allways used straight buyed samples, and Native absynth 3..nice program for atmosphere, great noise sounds..etc..but mostly not the right sounds for me.

But..working with that..a keyboard and plugins of sounds.making my own sample, its great!

Nice weekend by the way..

LPChip · June 23, 2007, 22:42:30

You can load these plugins directly into OpenMPT, and use them instead of samples.

If you want to record samples from them, make a short song with one C-5 note in it, and render to wave

kit beats · June 24, 2007, 09:29:58

but is there a program like a keyboard on screen and record what i play on the keyboard where the vst's are plugged in?

LPChip · June 24, 2007, 10:41:02

There are many programs.

OpenMPT is one of them though. It will not give you a keyboard on screen, but thats not required, unless you need that keyboard to be displayed. But I couldn't think of any reason when I wrote this.

Most programs have keyboard input like OpenMPT, so you can use your QWERTY keyboard to play the notes, or also an external midi keyboard.

BooT-SectoR-ViruZ · June 25, 2007, 16:22:20

ok, i got it... really was only that little midi-button :lol:

so then... how do i assign vst-params to my potis and mod-wheel? :wink:

LPChip · June 26, 2007, 07:59:38

Quote from: "BooT-SectoR-ViruZ"ok, i got it... really was only that little midi-button :lol:

so then... how do i assign vst-params to my potis and mod-wheel? :wink:

Sometimes things are so simple

As for the assignment of vstparams... I don't think thats possible in OpenMPT.

kit beats · April 08, 2008, 21:10:31

Ok people, i got 1, check it out

BUT..

i have just a problem that i don't have a joystick input on my soundcard, only usb and now my dad has a cable that's like in the beginning a midi out and a (head)phone input on the other hand of the cable..is that ok??

Or is it a must to buy a midi usb interface??

Midismart :lol:

LPChip · April 08, 2008, 23:36:56

You'll need a midi usb interface.

The decive you're talking about, is (if I'm not mistaken) for electric guitars to transfer incoming sounds to midi notes. The output here is the midi cable however, so you would still need something to connect it to your computer.

I'm not sure though if there are midi2usb convertors, but I wouldn't see a reason why there wouldn't be any...

EDIT: okay, so there's one... http://www.musicdeals.nl/index.php?productID=15950 LOL (description is in english)

Sam_Zen · April 09, 2008, 00:25:55

Quote from: "Samplekit"i don't have a joystick input on my soundcard, only usb and now my dad has a cable that's like in the beginning a midi out and a (head)phone input on the other hand of the cable

Some technical comment on this :
It's quite rare, as far as I know, that your soundcard doesn't have a joystick connection.
But on most card these lines are embedded into one connector which also includes the MIDI-lines.
So one needs a splitting cable to make both functions connectable.

Your dad's cable can be interpreted in different ways. It depends on the type of plug that's used.
Is the one you call 'midi out' a standard MIDI 5-pole DIN-connector ? Then it could be valid for 'midi in' as well.
I don't see any reason for a 'headphone input', because a headphone is no soundsource. Is it a stereo 3.5 mm jack?

Saga Musix · April 09, 2008, 10:00:07

Quote from: "Sam_Zen"It's quite rare, as far as I know, that your soundcard doesn't have a joystick connection.

not rare anymore. midi input has be succeeded by USB these days, even for joysticks. most mainboards still have a connector for onboard joystick, though. you can add a joystick plug to your standard pci slots then. But this is not the best option for recording, i'd rather prefer a home-recording audio card which has "real" midi (1x in, 1x out) plugs.

BooT-SectoR-ViruZ · April 09, 2008, 11:43:15

Quote from: "Samplekit"
i have just a problem that i don't have a joystick input on my soundcard, only usb and now my dad has a cable that's like in the beginning a midi out and a (head)phone input on the other hand of the cable..is that ok??

erm... doesn't your keyboard have a normal usb-output?
if it has one you don't need any midi-cables....

Quote from: "LPChip"
Quote from: "BooT-SectoR-ViruZ"
so then... how do i assign vst-params to my potis and mod-wheel? :wink:

As for the assignment of vstparams... I don't think thats possible in OpenMPT.

as everyone should know this lp-statement isn't true anymore for .51

kit beats · April 09, 2008, 12:28:33

Quote from: "SamZen"Is it a stereo 3.5 mm jack?

Yes i think it is, i buyed the midi keyboard for 20 euro's now im must buy a plug USB/midi for 30 euro :lol:

kit beats · April 09, 2008, 12:30:18

Quote from: "BooT-SectoR-ViruZ"
Quote from: "Samplekit"
i have just a problem that i don't have a joystick input on my soundcard, only usb and now my dad has a cable that's like in the beginning a midi out and a (head)phone input on the other hand of the cable..is that ok??

erm... doesn't your keyboard have a normal usb-output?
if it has one you don't need any midi-cables....

Quote from: "LPChip"
Quote from: "BooT-SectoR-ViruZ"
so then... how do i assign vst-params to my potis and mod-wheel? :wink:

As for the assignment of vstparams... I don't think thats possible in OpenMPT.

as everyone should know this lp-statement isn't true anymore for .51

Only 1 midi output..what you want for that money?!

Im going to play when i got this thing working,

Regards!