Author Topic: Clip indicator. (Read 27972 times)

KrazyKatz · « **on:** March 29, 2007, 14:43:36 »

As of now you can see, when your volume levels go into the red, but you don't have an indicator to point out if its clipping or not.

Saga Musix · « **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2007, 17:08:55 »

Indeed, that would be a nice idea!

Sam_Zen · « **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2007, 23:00:02 »

Are you talking about the VU-meters of the General Tab, or the ones of the Pattern Tab ?

Saga Musix · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2007, 00:01:02 »

I guess the ones on the genereal tabs, because the VU-meters on the pattern tab show you *nothing*, really. They don't even show you how loud your sample is. I enabled the, though, coz so i know which channels are playing

KrazyKatz · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2007, 10:48:43 »

Jojo answered your Question Mr. Zen.

Which leads me to bring an update to this Feature request - a clip indicator on the pattern page.

Waxhead · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2007, 19:19:08 »

Perhaps a bit out of topic but why not add scopes to the channels. This is one of the few things that I really miss from ProTracker. It was actually quite usefull.
Also it can perhaps be a idea to add a stereo-scope for to show both left and right channels summarized if possible.
What I have suggested before is to add a "faded" view of a waveform behind the notes in the editor

... that would be hypercool because you can see the final rendering of the sound. Also it can be usefull.

Ok I realize that I was terrible off topic here...

Perhaps we should make a summary of these requests since they are all related somehow I think.

Sam_Zen · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2007, 22:37:42 »

2 Waxhead
The common factor is maybe the representation of volume levels, but scopes is off-topic indeed. Let's keep it simple, the subject is a clip-indicator. A flashing led (or two probably).

2 KrazyKatz
You mean a 'central' indicator on the pattern page, or a clip-indicator in each channel ?

KrazyKatz · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2007, 23:36:13 »

2 Sam Zen: Central indicator on the pattern page.

Doesn't need to be special... just a sign to show that clipping has occurred. I dont think we need VU meters on the pattern page. But a clip indicator, such a "C" that goes red when clipping occurs on the pattern page could prove useful.

Sam_Zen · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2007, 05:31:16 »

I support that.
I never did activate those channel VU-meters to be honest. Although I don't agree with Jojo, that they tell nothing.
Ok, 4 green leds, one yellow and one red. Quite a smaller resolution than the volume bars on the General page.
But with panorama indication. And as Jojo says, they tell something's going on.
Maybe the red one could be programmed to be the clip-indicator.

Saga Musix · « **Reply #9 on:** March 31, 2007, 10:49:11 »

yeah, totally forgot about the panorama

that's also why i enabled them - to show where and if a channel is playing ^^

Snu · « **Reply #10 on:** March 31, 2007, 21:22:07 »

on the pattern page? id expect it to be on the general tab, where the main vu meter is, and where the channel volume settings are...

Sam_Zen · « **Reply #11 on:** March 31, 2007, 23:06:18 »

You're right. Even with no single channel clipping, it doesn't guarantee no clipping at the main output. So the General page has priority here, but it doesn't have to be an 'or', it can also be implemented on the Pattern page as well.

OT
I'm starting to get the impression that there are differences among the authors in the use of MPT, regarding their 'base tab' while they are working. One group with the General page, another group with mainly the Pattern page in front.

Saga Musix · « **Reply #12 on:** July 29, 2008, 15:54:13 »

*bump* any chance that this could be implemented?

Relabsoluness · « **Reply #13 on:** July 29, 2008, 19:45:50 »

Quote from: "Jojo"

*bump* any chance that this could be implemented?

Hopefully. At least I won't claim this feature request since the top of my todo-list is crowded with other things.

psishock · « **Reply #14 on:** August 23, 2008, 15:02:22 »

There are many free FFT spectrum analyzer VST-s that will do the job perfectly allready. Every instrument or plugin can be linked to them (put it in the FX100 slot and link every instrument or plugin to them, or just apply "master" in mix settings) so they will always measure db (plus the frequency range) even if only one channel is enabled or all of them at a moment.
Clipping, frequency ranges, db, volume changes and all the similar things can be monitored with one splendid VST.