[electronica] childhood memories (it)

[cubaxd]

This song is a mix of ambient melodies and fast idm-like percussion, made within 2 days on 2 OSes with 2 versions of MPT

Childhood
memories, 1.6M, 8:23

[Sam_Zen]

Beautiful start. Clever introductions to rhythmic parts. Nice gamelan-like melodics. And the watery noises make it complete.
A OT question, because I'm not familiar with VST's : After loading the song I noticed the adding of some DirectX reverb plugin as FX1, although no channel is making use of a plugin. How come ?

[cubaxd]

Hi Sam

Nice gamelan-like melodics.

Thx I was searching for a word describing these melodies. Now i've got it

After loading the song I noticed the adding of some DirectX reverb plugin as FX1, although no channel is making use of a plugin. How come ?

In the short time when i used windows for making some more samples and adding them to the mod (this is still the best platform to do this), i must have have added the reverb. But when i switched back to linux this was rather useless since i have not installed directx on wine.

After inspecting the file and looking at the message dialog i found another "flaw"

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made with ModPlug Tracker
( 0.17.2.28 (win) and 0.16.0202 (wine) )
can't be true

[Saga Musix]

sounds interesting
one hint concerning the samples, which is not only addressed to you:
Lots of your samples have a "wrong" DC offset. you see this as most wave data is "above" the center line. you can remove this DC offset in wave editors like wavelab. it's a good idea to do this as you can amplify the samples more and mixing goes on better aswell.

[cubaxd]

moin Jojo

sounds interesting

thanks

one hint concerning the samples, which is not only addressed to you:
Lots of your samples have a "wrong" DC offset. you see this as most wave data is "above" the center line. you can remove this DC offset in wave editors like wavelab. it's a good idea to do this as you can amplify the samples more and mixing goes on better aswell.

This can also be done using MPT by just putting a sample into a pattern and saving this one-pattern-song as wav file. This DC thing (that term was new to me :oops: ) is on the line then. But it was once more my laziness which prohibited me to do this

[Asharin]

This can also be done using MPT by just putting a sample into a pattern and saving this one-pattern-song as wav file. This DC thing (that term was new to me :oops: ) is on the line then. But it was once more my laziness which prohibited me to do this

This is something I keep meaning to do, I use VSTi's almost exclusiv ely with no samples anymore..however, a lot of VSTi's bogs down the CPU so on some patterns you can't actually play it properly in MPT as it stutters, so I have to save the track as wav to hear it properly. what I might do for the more repetative parts is just save as a wav and then load into the track and loop it, less cpu use in samples, and it'll still sound exatly the way I want it to. Thanks for reminding me!
PS, Nice track too

[Saga Musix]

hm, i use modplug for so long now and i have not noticed that his works with wave export... or maybe it did not work with the old releases? don't remeber...

[Sam_Zen]

I didn't notice the fact, but Jojo has a strong point about the DC-offset of a sample. Maximum amplification etc.
Besides the basic rule, that a sample should begin and and end with a 'zero' value anyway.
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Laziness ? It seems to me that correcting the sample in the first place is much less work than putting the sample with a code in a pattern, then adjusting the speed and the length of the pattern, to get the same wav file saved again.

[Saga Musix]

The DC also plays an important role with older player which don't use click avoidance mechanisms. So if the DC offset is not at zero, you will always hear a click at the beginning and the end of the sample.But that's maybe a bit too off-topic here, maybe someone can put this in the "technical documents"?

[Sam_Zen]

I checked "technical documents" and it would be indeed a useful issue : How to treat samples ?
I've covered part of this item here already : http://www.louigiverona.com/webarchive/samzen/samps/smpvoluk.html

[timtek]

No longer available :(

[Saga Musix]

http://cubaxd.net/music/mods/2007/childhood_memories.it.zip <- worx

[timtek]

awesome, thanks.