An interesting study about chord loops

Started by Exhale, March 22, 2024, 18:35:33

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Exhale

It hasnt been peer reviewed yet, and it is a small sample size and a single loop, but I think some people here might find it interesting - I havent finished watching the vid yet, but I am glued to the screen (other than to post it here for you guys).

Enjoy :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyWpCVVUpO8
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n0cturn

He lost me early on, maybe I was hypnotised by the left handed doodling? I thought a chord was something you pulled on a parachute while screaming, after being pushed out of an aeroplane at 20,000 feet. (don't want to do that again)

Exhale

Quote from: n0cturn on March 22, 2024, 20:11:16He lost me early on, maybe I was hypnotised by the left handed doodling? I thought a chord was something you pulled on a parachute while screaming, after being pushed out of an aeroplane at 20,000 feet. (don't want to do that again)


hahaha, it is a good channel for music theory stuff, and the left hand is the way plenty of people write and draw :D - I find it a bit mesmerizing too, first person perspective and left hand, since I (like the majority of us) am also right handed... but chords ~ I have to presume you are playing coy since you make music, but in the extremely slim off chance you arent... a chord is 2 or more notes played from the same instrument at the same time
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SewerSide

Yeah, I held out for 10 minutes, very verbose and for simple triad chords I never use triads as they are too limiting, too plain & familiar for what I do...

I think it's better to spend time jamming to fav tunes than listen to sermonizing on theory. Back in the 70's & 80's bought alot of books on theory & such, they didn't help much... Jamming to 33's & 45's did as well as being in various bands...

After you get reasonably good with the 'ear' then you can pick out most anything in any tune & say, that was nice I'll try something like that but with my own twist...

But if you are already making music YOU want to listen to then you are already there in a big way...

Exhale

Well quantifying what we do has value, and something I wanted to try to do with art at one stage too... but I decided it was possibly a fools errand, quantifying beauty, putting numbers to it, just doesnt seem possible. But I can respect the act of trying and I highly appreciate the youtube channel. Something that has to be acknowledged is that it isnt a question of 'or' both can be done at the same time, and by people of differing artistic mindsets.
I have a high respect for scientific poking and prodding, and theorizing about why things work musically and artistically is something some people want to do, so I can appreciate that, and I will listen to what they have to say - find out what conclusions they have come to, which can help with inspiration and much more.
As for simplicity - K.I.S.S. or "Keep It Simple Stupid" is a very grounding and humbling concept. When you get too far into the weeds of music complexity, it is important to realize you are possibly leaving other people behind. It might have been einstein who said, "If you cant explain it to a child you do not understand it well enough" or something close to that - and as someone who has taught a bit of art and music, I personally consider the thought potent and important.
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n0cturn

I did find it interesting, just a bit over my head (I need the dummies guide) found myself watching the drawing too much and not listening to what was being said (that's just me, easily distracted)

SewerSide

Sure, Whatever works for somebody... Growing up from age 10-13 I was taking organ lessons man it was dry & uninspiring. In 1975 took up Bass & once I started being able to jam to records then things took off...

But I did jam with a chick that was president of John Denver's fan club in CA... She was pretty good & just used major-minor chords. those worked for her type of music. Back then you had to play whatever was being played without prejudice against genre otherwise you just had to play by yourself... You all are lucky these days to have all instruments available on your machines no having to rely on others who would always be either better or worse than you & never wanting to quite play the same music as you...

I would've killed an entire village to have something even like AXS Tracker back then...

And there are the 'special moments' like once jammimg with 3 others the drummer just dives through his trap set destroying the hihat & other & flailing around like a freak... Come to find out he was epileptic & had failed to take medication... Could do without those scenarios>>>

Good Talk>>>

Exhale

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Well you might be older than I, but I aint a spring chicken, think of it as the oldest a millenial can be. And yes, I played in the church band, my first stuff really back then and I was damn good on the piano for those... You get well practiced and flexible quick when you are jamming with others for at least 2 extended periods every week for many years. Full band mind you, there were like 3 guitarists, a bassist, a drummer and me or one other sometimes at first and then never after a while on the piano, since I took over really. Heh the guitarists all wanted to do rock and had distortion, while I was fresh in the band at like 13 years old... anyways... that was pretty much non stop for 4 years, one practice, maybe two and then the performance every week... so yeah you get good quick. And yeah we were one of those happy clappy kinds with ppl falling over and all sorts of nonsense... I have also had plenty of other band experience playing pretty much anything ppl might want to listen to - so ;) dont think you are unique in that at all here. Also, as I said I have taught music and art for about a year at a farm school and had to get creative since resources were pretty massively tight (here in south africa, if take what you think is tight and get rid of it all, I had to make do with what I could find around the place and make inspiring lessons for the kids, making instruments from rubbish etc).
I started tracking on Impulse tracker in dos, and I admit I was scared off at first thinking that making music was basically programming, but once I got the hang of it I was making a tune or two a year and then suddenly more eventually... then moved on to ompt.
Just because we grew up in different times, I presume you were in the 70s while I was born in the early 80s, doesnt mean much man... you still have to get your hands dirty and play what is going, even today, if you wanna jam with other ppl lol... that is pretty much the definition of playing music in a group, everyone makes compromises and everyone steers in their own direction - group stuff is like that lol.
EDIT : we can see who has the longer grey beard huh ;) hahaha
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