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Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: LPChip on December 10, 2005, 14:23:23
You have to be a bit creative, but eventually you can get MPT to look very good so you can be more creative!!!

You don't believe me? Watch this screenshot.

(http://www.lpchip.com/sharing/desktop%20mpt%20hl2.jpg)

The skin i used for this one is HalfLife2 skin, that can be downloaded from DeviantArt. You'll need StyleXP or the patch to install other styles and ofcource windows XP.

Don't have one of these? then try Windows Blinds, or set your appearance to windows classic and use the buildin color manager to make your own colors. You can get the colors quite close to what I have on the screenshot.

If I can find a way to export the colors from whitin MPT, I'll share them too.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Squirrel Havoc on December 10, 2005, 14:53:30
Wow, that looks like old school 3DS max, and it doesn't break accesibility. Not bad :)

EDIT: StyleXP is for windowsxp/2K3 only, according to the website :(
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: xaimus on December 10, 2005, 15:19:52
WindowBlinds should work just as well.

Meh, I can't say I care about the appearance much.  It's gotten pretty bad ever since an upgrade to Wine .9 decided to trash my saved font metrics and ignore Tahoma in favor of some terrible monospace font, but MPT's interface lets me get what I want done, without getting in my way.

(http://whatthebert.com/ihameed/crap/mptwine.jpg)
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: MisterX on December 10, 2005, 19:26:35
I never understood the importance that some people may place on the appearance of a program used to make music.  Do you want to be able to make good music easily, or do you want a pretty program to look at?

I would place sound quality and ease of use above the interface, but that's just me. ;)
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Squirrel Havoc on December 10, 2005, 22:10:24
Different interfaces bring out different creative qualities in me, but thats just me :)
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: LPChip on December 10, 2005, 22:25:25
I can track any music with one simple interface, and probably everyone can. In order to do so, you have to have enough inspiration to do so.

If you alter the colour scheme though, different aspects of your creativeness brain will be stimulated and that allows you to boost your inspiration depending on what that set of colours does to you.

Required? no. But it will come in handy when you have a writers block!
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Squirrel Havoc on December 10, 2005, 23:15:32
I use a few programs to make music, Skale, MPT, Renoise, Reason, and all my works with each program have a theme common to other songs made in the same program, while each programs theme is different than the others. I think having a selectable colorscheme (like saving presents and such), that would help with people like me who need an extra boost for their creativity. Like one preset for dark ambient music, one for happy trance, and so on.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: DMNXS on December 10, 2005, 23:21:58
I only use color schemes/skins when I'm tired of the normal look, such as in Winamp or Psycle. But an overall more modern look wouldn't hurt OMPT, I guess 8) .
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Sam_Zen on December 11, 2005, 00:43:55
I never had an urge to change the appearance of MPT. It could do the job, fine by me. In that way I fully agree with MisterX (but that's just us), but I understand the point about different interfaces by Squirrel Havoc and LPChip.

The design of the interface indeed can have an influence on the process. But to me more on a functional level. Which options are directly available and for which ones you have to dig deep in some menu ?

I can see he trick with the different colorschemes to stimulate the creativity, but my idea when confronted with a writers block is different : Just go work on some other project and be confident that 'the urge to lay that egg' will come back. I don't like any artificial pressure on the creative process from the outside personally.

DMNXS mentions color schemes/skins. An indication of the dangers of a drastical need for change of appearance.
Color schemes : ok, it's a personal system-choice, nothing wrong with that. But skins is another story.
They often mean change of the interface itself, or loosing total control because of automatics.
Ask blind people about skins, where the buttons are bitmaps with a text on it.
A distinction should be made here between appearance of an Editor and a Player.
A Player can be modern (so with rounded corners nowadays), but an Editor doesn't have to.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Snu on December 11, 2005, 08:30:44
i guess if you can be inspired by colors, then more power to ya, but i sure cant... the only reasons i can see for changing the colors is to make it less bright and easier on the eyes.
on this note tho, i just had to reinstall windows and had to reset the colors, would really be nice to have an export/import...
or just save in the ini file instead of the registry (yah, i know you are working on this rewbs).
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Louigi Verona on December 12, 2005, 07:35:20
I like white patterns of MPT. But now when I looke at what you guys did with the interface, I'll try new colors!
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: rncekel on December 12, 2005, 08:33:57
I think that the aspect may be important if you keep a lot of time working with the program. It is important to have contrast enough to help reading, and a dark background helps not to get your eyes tired too soon. But, of course, it is far more important to have a good funcionality.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Louigi Verona on December 12, 2005, 13:43:26
r u sure dark background makes eyes less tired? I thought the green color makes eyes relax. Green shouldn't be dark.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Squirrel Havoc on December 12, 2005, 15:14:00
I thought green made you smoke pot? :) :lol:
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: xaimus on December 12, 2005, 15:52:54
The Impulse Tracker preset is the only color scheme anyone could possibly need.  :P
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: BooT-SectoR-ViruZ on December 12, 2005, 17:23:30
hmmm... i just remember my old FT2 color sheme  :cry:

(http://home.arcor.de/bootybazz/ft2-666.jpg)
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Squirrel Havoc on December 12, 2005, 17:32:20
Imagine if MPT had sliders like FTII that would change background colors and stuff. that would be cool
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: rncekel on December 12, 2005, 18:24:38
To Luigi:
Well, at least that's what I have been told in the University. And it seems logical. Green is not too dark, but it is less bright than white, that is the usual background, and is the worst one. And the best in this aspect would be black (like when you write in a blackboard with a chalk).
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: LPChip on December 12, 2005, 19:45:18
Quote from: "rncekel"To Luigi:
Well, at least that's what I have been told in the University. And it seems logical. Green is not too dark, but it is less bright than white, that is the usual background, and is the worst one. And the best in this aspect would be black (like when you write in a blackboard with a chalk).

Mistery solved: Thats why everyone at school is sleepy :P
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: speed-goddamn-focus on December 12, 2005, 21:17:32
We had green blackboards at school.  :shock:
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Snu on December 13, 2005, 00:59:54
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"I thought green made you smoke pot? :) :lol:
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"We had green blackboards at school.  :shock:

hmmm... this explains so much.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: speed-goddamn-focus on December 13, 2005, 08:05:34
Quote from: "Snu"
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"I thought green made you smoke pot? :) :lol:
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"We had green blackboards at school.  :shock:

hmmm... this explains so much.

no, i'm just a weirdo. ask my friends.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Squirrel Havoc on December 13, 2005, 15:12:36
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"
Quote from: "Snu"
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"I thought green made you smoke pot? :) :lol:
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"We had green blackboards at school.  :shock:

hmmm... this explains so much.

no, i'm just a weirdo. ask my friends.

The ones noone else can see?  :twisted:
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: speed-goddamn-focus on December 13, 2005, 18:10:50
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"no, i'm just a weirdo. ask my friends.

The ones noone else can see?  :twisted:

No, those friends think I'm normal.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: rewbs on December 13, 2005, 20:16:39
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"no, i'm just a weirdo. ask my friends.

The ones noone else can see?  :twisted:

No, those friends think I'm normal.

I think you're a weirdo, and no one can see me.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: speed-goddamn-focus on December 13, 2005, 20:29:01
Quote from: "rewbs"
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"no, i'm just a weirdo. ask my friends.

The ones noone else can see?  :twisted:

No, those friends think I'm normal.

I think you're a weirdo, and no one can see me.

Yes, but you are exceptional, and thus you are an exception.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Louigi Verona on December 14, 2005, 06:38:51
we also had green boards. And even dark red boards. Both were fine for the eyes.
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Pesho_Zmiata on December 15, 2005, 18:01:21
Here's mine:

(http://www.oocities.com/peshozmiata/modplug.jpg)

Does anyone still use the Modplug Player? ::)
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Sam_Zen on December 19, 2005, 01:47:39
2Squirrel Havoc
Any color can make me smoke. :)

2Pesho_Zmiata
I still do. As a matter of fact, it's my main association for these extensions to have a quick playback.
I have my questions about the upper half of your screenshot though. Where did that came from ?
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Pesho_Zmiata on December 19, 2005, 08:32:34
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"2Pesho_Zmiata
I still do. As a matter of fact, it's my main association for these extensions to have a quick playback.
I have my questions about the upper half of your screenshot though. Where did that came from ?

It's the mixer controls. Just right-click on the lcd display-like thing that shows the song name and select it. You can increase/decrease the volume on the different channels, or change the pattern speed and sample pitch. It gets those old songs, that you got tired of listening to them to sound more new and interesting :)
Title: Who says that MPT's appearance sux?
Post by: Sam_Zen on December 20, 2005, 01:00:46
2Pesho_Zmiata
Hey, this is nice ! All those years, I never was aware of this function.