first of all i want to sorry for really very bad english. i hope you understand me.
many times ago i was a big fan of Impulse Tracker 2, but now days i can`t use it fully in Windows 2000/XP (vdmsound gives latency and lags keyboard "strokes", i dont like this at all). emulation is bad....
2-3 years of searching right tracker....i cant deside what tracker to use....
renoise - modern tracker /w VST/VSti support, Asio support, but it is resource hungry and have many-many bugs in oldchool effects (mod/it/xm) interpritation, very slow loading not-native formats -
skale - only for Fast Tracker II fans. slow development. -
psycle/buzz - i dont like conception on these programs absolutely, cause they "no-trackers" -
schism - seems to be the best choice - original IT interface and Modplug audio engine, but it is very buggy under Windows. text mode - means less channel information. weird output sound, when rendering to wave. the worst sonogram in comparition with modern trackers (in other words "flat sound")
revisit - very alpha, and we need to install heavy host-applications like cubase, nuendo
modplug? last chance? i dont have enough time to play with it, cause i found it very late:) but in quick breef - it seems that it has poor automation (compared to renoise for example), some bugs (but situation is better that in schism tracker). i like the idea of fully cusmisation interface..
maybe you have some thoughts connected with that problem...
My choice is ModPlug Tracker, possibly because I've grown accustomed to it. You could also check out BeRoTracker (http://www.berotracker.de), I haven't used it myself but the feature list looks nice and it has one of the best slogans ever: BeRoTracker - The future has you
I think you should give Psycle another chance. It definitely has the heart and soul of a tracker, and graphical audio routing is very powerful.
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"My choice is ModPlug Tracker, possibly because I've grown accustomed to it. You could also check out BeRoTracker (http://www.berotracker.de), I haven't used it myself but the feature list looks nice and it has one of the best slogans ever: BeRoTracker - The future has you
it is still very buggy...and slaggish..
Quote from: "rewbs"I think you should give Psycle another chance. It definitely has the heart and soul of a tracker, and graphical audio routing is very powerful.
hm...funny you advice me psycle, not modplug (and you are site admin:))
You could try MadTracker.
http://www.madtracker.org/main.php
It's sluggish at startup and it's also a bit CPU hungry, but it has a nice feature set. I personally think that the future is with MPT. Although my opinion might be somewhat biased.
Quote from: "Diamond"You could try MadTracker.
http://www.madtracker.org/main.php
It's sluggish at startup and it's also a bit CPU hungry, but it has a nice feature set. I personally think that the future is with MPT. Although my opinion might be somewhat biased.
i forgot to say that i tried it already. i dont like it...yes cpu hungry, asio problems, and more more more..
i think modplug is the best classic tracker..but stillnot perfect, as was impulse tracker, the most convinient tracker in the world:)
Lets do it properly! :)
I'd suggest Modplug Tracker! :)
I've personally made an Impulse Tracker key presets file which include ALL keyboard shortcuts that were in IT. even the old alt-c alt-p alt-m copy paste mix keys are there. Also navigation will become how IT was.
Benefits: good accurate playback of tracks, not cpu intense, ability to grow beyond what IT offered, virtually no bugs, and if they are there, report it to us, and we'll try to fix it. Also possible to get features in it by requesting, but no guarantee they'll be added.
It is a clean and easy interface that looks like any windows application. Its there where modplug's true power is. You have all the overview, plus all the advanced stuff that is there. The soundquality (although not the best) is far better than in the original Impulse Tracker. Support for most sound configurations, which should allow you to run the tracker without problems.
And last but certainly not least, we offer the best community there can be for a tracker :) Very good and friendly people with lots of knowledge:)
Quote from: "l8"Quote from: "Diamond"You could try MadTracker.
http://www.madtracker.org/main.php
It's sluggish at startup and it's also a bit CPU hungry, but it has a nice feature set. I personally think that the future is with MPT. Although my opinion might be somewhat biased.
i forgot to say that i tried it already. i dont like it...yes cpu hungry, asio problems, and more more more..
i think modplug is the best classic tracker..but stillnot perfect, as was impulse tracker, the most convinient tracker in the world:)
Yes, but Modplug Tracker is still being updated semi-regularly and as was previously stated suggestions for new features and improvements are always welcome if not necessarily always implemented. Also, you might want to take a look at the "To Do" list here:
http://soal.org/expMPT/1.17RC2/OMPT_1.17RC2_ReleaseNotes.html
Right on, LPChip !
I can hardly give advise about this, because I use MPT since ver 1.06, and now of course OMPT, and I never had any
reason to look for something else.
2 l8
Quality has its price. One has to put effort and time to get familiar with an application, as you surely did too, when you started with Impulse Tracker. I started with FastTracker, another way to find ModPlug. So again it took some time to get familiar with the new tool, but it's worth it.
Quote from: "LPChip"And last but certainly not least, we offer the best community there can be for a tracker :) Very good and friendly people with lots of knowledge:)
Do you have a link for that community? I've been looking for a place like that for ages.
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"Quote from: "LPChip"And last but certainly not least, we offer the best community there can be for a tracker :) Very good and friendly people with lots of knowledge:)
Do you have a link for that community? I've been looking for a place like that for ages.
Sure: http://lpchip.com/modplug ;)
Quote from: "LPChip"Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"Quote from: "LPChip"And last but certainly not least, we offer the best community there can be for a tracker :) Very good and friendly people with lots of knowledge:)
Do you have a link for that community? I've been looking for a place like that for ages.
Sure: http://lpchip.com/modplug ;)
It seems to be down. :cry:
How can no-one suggest MadTracker? Or did I miss it? It's shareware, and kinda expensive if you pay for it, but I think it's an awesome companion to MPT, just pick the one that fits what you want to do
Quote from: "LPChip"
I'd suggest Modplug Tracker! :)
I've personally made an Impulse Tracker key presets file which include ALL keyboard shortcuts that were in IT. even the old alt-c alt-p alt-m copy paste mix keys are there. Also navigation will become how IT was.
i`ve do it yesterday too:) but not all things can be "hot-keyed" in the same manner like in IT.
Quote from: "LPChip"
Also possible to get features in it by requesting, but no guarantee they'll be added.
i`ll try to make list of needed stuff. :)
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"My choice is ModPlug Tracker, possibly because I've grown accustomed to it. You could also check out BeRoTracker (http://www.berotracker.de), I haven't used it myself but the feature list looks nice and it has one of the best slogans ever: BeRoTracker - The future has you
interesting tracker..but still in early alpha..
I've never used OMPT. But I do use MPT and I think it's the best tracker programm in the multiuniverse. It has no bugs, at least during many years of me using it - I've never encountered any. It has a great interface, customizable. It plays many formats and saves to mod,xm,s3m,it,wav,mp3. What else do you need? VST support is there, plugins and stuff. Even sf2.
Hehe. MPT is da best choice, m a n.
I'd check out both Modplug and MadTracker. I've used Modplug most, but I have recently experimented with Madtracker for the sake of diversity.
Yet, there is one fact I can't deny, and it says that MadTracker has crashed a few times, while Modplug has never crashed. Probably says something about CPU usage. Still, I'm gonna keep on using MadTracker and compare the two of them.
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"I've never used OMPT.
You should give it a try, it has some nice new features that you'll love even if you only use it to make chiptunes.
oki!
Milky Tracker
http://www.milkytracker.net/
Quote from: "georg"Milky Tracker
http://www.milkytracker.net/
just download it. i am not a FT2 fan, but looks nice. hm..very nice..
by the way...
from bero tracker forum. quote:
"MPT lacks of features that BRT has exclusively
You are with BRT on the safe side. BRT is fully (99,99%) compatible to old tracker formats (where MPT lacks)."
phrase by bero developer. m? what do you think about it?
seems to be rave? mpt not compatible with mod/s3m?
Quote from: "l8"by the way...
from bero tracker forum. quote:
"MPT lacks of features that BRT has exclusively
You are with BRT on the safe side. BRT is fully (99,99%) compatible to old tracker formats (where MPT lacks)."
phrase by bero developer. m? what do you think about it?
seems to be rave? mpt not compatible with mod/s3m?
No, he refers to the fact that MPT has ported IT's capabilities beyond what IT could do, where he remained with what IT used to be. In other words, he kept IT files etc, limited to their original intentions.
Quote from: "LPChip"Quote from: "l8"by the way...
from bero tracker forum. quote:
"MPT lacks of features that BRT has exclusively
You are with BRT on the safe side. BRT is fully (99,99%) compatible to old tracker formats (where MPT lacks)."
phrase by bero developer. m? what do you think about it?
seems to be rave? mpt not compatible with mod/s3m?
No, he refers to the fact that MPT has ported IT's capabilities beyond what IT could do, where he remained with what IT used to be. In other words, he kept IT files etc, limited to their original intentions.
No, he refers to the fact that MPT in odd cases doesn't necessarily replay a tracker specific file exactly like the original tracker would. To me that is not important at all, but it seems to be a big deal to BeRo. ;)
EDIT: Spellnig and grammer. Aded smily.
I recommend ModPlug tracker, here's why:
For electronic music, Buzz and Psycle seem great, because they are synth oriented. But I don't make much electronic music, and when I do, I can always use VSTis. Besides, Buzz and Psycle are barely usable. I learned to use buzz, but it was painful wo work with it.
Renoise is great, but it takes ages to start, ages to load a module, you can't load two modules, it's not confortable to enter notes. Why? Because it has that awful thing that, if you keep the key down, it will keep inserting notes. So, you slow down the key entry rate to avoid inserting notes accidentaly, and then the process of entering notes becomes slow. VST support is excellent, and so is automation. These were the main reasons I tried to start using it, because MPT's VST support wasn't good. But I still couldn't track as confortably as with MPT. Renoise is not agile. I can' track fast with Renoise. Besides of the key thing, it's difficult to make selecting blocks by using just the keys, which is really easy with MPT. So, when MPT improved VST support, I jumped back to it, and I'm really happy with it.
Madtracker, I fiddled a little with it, seems nice. I never completed a track with it, as opposed to Renoise, and I still think Renoise is my second choice. Yet, Madtracker is lighter, more similar to MPT, I think.
Skale has a terrible interface (pretty, but highly unusable) and version is not even 1.0, I think.
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"Quote from: "LPChip"Quote from: "l8"by the way...
from bero tracker forum. quote:
"MPT lacks of features that BRT has exclusively
You are with BRT on the safe side. BRT is fully (99,99%) compatible to old tracker formats (where MPT lacks)."
phrase by bero developer. m? what do you think about it?
seems to be rave? mpt not compatible with mod/s3m?
No, he refers to the fact that MPT has ported IT's capabilities beyond what IT could do, where he remained with what IT used to be. In other words, he kept IT files etc, limited to their original intentions.
No, he refers to the fact that MPT in odd cases necessarily replay an tracker specific file exactly like the original tracker would. To me that is not important at all, but it seems to be a big deal to BeRo.
That's right, there's a collection of example tracks containing very specific uses of certain IT effects (such as nested loops and particular combinations and sequences of pitch/volume effects) that can be used to test how hardcore a player's compatibility with IT2 is. BRT's playback is closer to IT2 on these tests than MPT. I'll dig up a link to the tests so you can see for yourself (but knowing Bero, he'll probably find this thread and post the link before I do :) ).
Edit - here it is: http://bero.freqvibez.net/BeRoTracker/ImpulseTrackerReplayerRulesAbuseTests/abuse.zip