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Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: hellscion on July 14, 2006, 12:28:24
ok it is hard finding somewhere to upload music but soon i'll get webspace. anyways, you can find it at either of these sites...

http://www.mysharefile.com/v/3893398/infernal.mp3.html


Also check out:

http://www.mysharefile.com/v/7818482/sigma3.mp3.html

artistserver.com/hellscion

myspace.com/hellscion

INFERNAL. the other songs are also good if ye must know. alright...thanks...tell me what you think  8)
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: LPChip on July 14, 2006, 14:08:23
Can you please provide a direct link to your song?
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: hellscion on July 16, 2006, 13:29:57
http://www.mysharefile.com/v/3893398/infernal.mp3.html

http://www.mysharefile.com/v/7818482/sigma3.mp3.html

ok that's a little more direct i guess. unless you've got a better idea... :?:
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: LPChip on July 16, 2006, 14:26:39
Tnx. I've edited your first post to include the links.
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: hellscion on July 16, 2006, 16:17:17
groovy. check out the music thoughh...breakthrough stuff for trackin' :wink:
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: hellscion on July 20, 2006, 22:11:59
hmmm it would seem i'm being ignored  :(
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: Sam_Zen on July 21, 2006, 01:23:21
You're obviously re-posting without new information to get the thread again high on the list..
Don't complain about ignorance. The lack of comment also can mean that there's nothing to react on.

But if you consist on having a review, you can get it. So I listened again.
It starts and it ends (rather abrupt), and in the meantime everything goes as it should be.
It lacks any ambition to produce a solo instrument.
Title is too pretentious : I have other expectations with 'infernal' than this. This could be functional as soundtrack material for a docu about a train station.
Title: upload
Post by: twoot on July 22, 2006, 02:36:05
you can always get a freewebs.com account you have to wait 7 days but you get like 500 meg ( i think) of uploading space after that
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: xaimus on July 22, 2006, 17:24:36
The song could use a lot more "work"--the sound quality was pretty bad.  It felt like the entire track was thrown through a lowpass filter.

Anyhow, as far as the music itself goes, I thought it had potential.  The arrangement and structure of the piece could stand to see a lot of improvement, though.
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: hellscion on July 22, 2006, 20:15:42
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"You're obviously re-posting without new information to get the thread again high on the list..
Don't complain about ignorance. The lack of comment also can mean that there's nothing to react on.

But if you consist on having a review, you can get it. So I listened again.
It starts and it ends (rather abrupt), and in the meantime everything goes as it should be.
It lacks any ambition to produce a solo instrument.
Title is too pretentious : I have other expectations with 'infernal' than this. This could be functional as soundtrack material for a docu about a train station.

this may or may not be true. however, after reading your comments i feel insulted :? i'm usually around for a few months every year or so to share what i've been working on. this time it was some experimentation with vsti. however with this forum i seem to always have problems with opinionated people. thanks for taking the time to listen but there's really no need for that attitude.  

Quote from: "xaimus"The song could use a lot more "work"--the sound quality was pretty bad.  It felt like the entire track was thrown through a lowpass filter.

Anyhow, as far as the music itself goes, I thought it had potential.  The arrangement and structure of the piece could stand to see a lot of improvement, though.

you're talking about sound quality issues on a tracking forum. good god man...  :shock: i also don't think you gave the song your full attention... i put more work into my music than you think, but it's a very new and experimental style that i don't think you can take in very quickly. if it wouldn't kill you...listen to it a few times over several weeks...then you'll get the full effect.
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: XAVT on July 22, 2006, 21:04:19
Note that not everyone are trackers here.

Infernal: The overall volume is very low and the sound really lacks a lot. It`s obviously tracked. And don`t get me wrong, tracked tracks can sound better. It gets to the point I`m having hard time defrentiating your snare from the kick or synth. Musically speaking its neither good nor bad. It has no real lead and I didn`t spot a dominant climax or break or anything of that sort which turned the progression of the track to irrelevant. As for the ending, at first I thought "oh bummer, he`s fading it out.." only then I heared that it was rudely and abruptly cutoff, its not a good ending. I dont remember you introducing different instruments other then perhaps a squarish lead which sounded just the same on all accounts as your previous saw lead. The good side is that i did notice a chord progression which did leave some mark on me adding a certain epic feeling to it.

You are probobly rather new to music and belive me you have a lot to learn, as do everyone of us. I suggest you stop being offended by senseir comments which were, beleive me, ment only for your improvment, and start listening to them.

If you think for a while you`ll probobly agree that stating that "youll get used to it in 2 weeks" is absurd. Nowadays you either instantly like it or not. You can get used to the sirens after 2 weeks too [I`m from Israel].

I wish you luck.
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: hellscion on July 22, 2006, 21:27:12
for someone from isreal you are most certainly not keeping it real  :cry: don't judge my musical ability after hearing just 1 song. i've been a musician for around 8 years...  :x longer really but i'm going to refer to how long i've been into tracking..

Quote from: "XAVT"You are probobly rather new to music and belive me you have a lot to learn, as do everyone of us.

i know more about music than you think... but my whole style is experimental so sometimes my ideas don't make a whole lot of sense to some people. with that song though, it is meant to be played LOUD. loud as you can stand it. however i know a lot of people don't like distortion and rough sounds but...as a musician i've learned, for EVERYTHING you like there's someone else that does. it is true that for things like record labels and higher quality sound productions it is best to use very clean and smooth sounds but personally i think perfection ultimately works against us as a species. being imperfect as we are...
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: LPChip on July 22, 2006, 22:53:12
Guys, please keep it clean. I do not want to lock this topic because its getting out of control.

I always though that when you release music to the public, you were aware that people might tell you what they notice about the particulair song.

In this case, they "think" that the song is a bit average. They have their reasons to think as they are telling it in their comment. It is entirelly up to the submitter to do with the comments as he/she wishes. We trackers do not want to attack the person that made a song, but are you really after a statement as in: i like it. Without a reason or what?

Oh one thing. There's a complete difference in asking someone's opinion here, than from a friend. Why? the people here have experience in making music, and they are the ones that can be both objective and tell you how to grow in your music. A friend/family member will probably say: oh this is great stuff. Why? probably because they are just trying to be polite.

I don't think people want to lie to you in order to make you feel better. It is not good for them and neither is it for you.

Hellscion, can you try the following? Listen to a song you really like, then listen to this one. Try to find out why that other song sounds so much better. Its basically what those people here try to tell you. No offense m8. Really, no offense.

You can even read a positive remark in most of the texts: they said: its not bad...
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: Sam_Zen on July 23, 2006, 00:11:41
Great post, LPChip..
Nice point about the distinction between loyal, so worthless, family comments, and the observation of a fellow craftsman.

I've made this mistake myself in another thread, but I don't think we should introduce geographic data of the posters into the discussion, which is off-topic anyway; it will just fuzz things up. I regret this.

2 hellscion
My excuses if you felt insulted by my comment. I must have been made a mistake in the formulation, because it was not my intention.
If I should follow your way of thinking, I would feel 'insulted' now, by your assumption, that I wrote things down with some 'attitude'. A kind of preposition. No way.
I listen, and try to compose my impressions in text, as an experience and as a matter of craftmanship for example.

( btw : You didn't so far, but the only one who is allowed to call me 'dude' is Bart Simpson :) )
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: hellscion on July 23, 2006, 00:31:17
i feel no different than before.....you people talk to me like i'm new both here and to music. i can tell there are many perfectionists here and people that work hard at things often have some sort of idea of holding their perfectionist standards to everything. looking for what something doesn't have rather than what it does. and there you have negativity...

sam zen: alright man i really try to be nice but it's hard. you're cool as far as i can tell.. i think my name triggers a negative reaction because of people's inability to associate anything positive with 'hell'. whether or not that is the case with you i can only wonder, i'll not assume anything. at any rate, i'd rather not have problems wit anyone. so uhh cool, gumshoe(?)
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: Sam_Zen on July 24, 2006, 01:09:14
Cool it is.
Perfection is an illusion anyway on forehand. At least not totally in own control. So I don't have anything with 'perfectionist standards to everything'.
You can leave the negative impression by considering this review-system as a symmetric range, with a max pos. and a max neg. and a zero as neutral default. I like to put my comments in that perpective.

2 hellscion : Hell
Let me tell you that I personally doesn't have anything with this string because I was not brainwashed in my youth with religion. So it's outside of my brainbox. But I maybe understand the concept and the meaning of it.
So if you call this kind of extreme power in a name, you're bound to deliver the same kind of power in a song.
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: hellscion on July 24, 2006, 01:45:25
ah someone who speaks rather than just talking. interesting
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: apple-joe on July 24, 2006, 11:28:37
That was one quite interesting discussion. Now, time to listen to the track.

EDIT:

I'll comment as I listen.

"Infernal": Quite like the sounds of the intro. Seems to build up in tension now as it's passed one minute. It's getting more intense, nice development. I don't know if the 'bad sound' replies were mounted on this one? I thought it was, so I was a little surprised by the nice sound in this one. I'm afraid  I got no complaints about this one.

Now "Sigma pt3": A little similar, just faster intro. Very refreshing. This is not the kind of music I have been making, so it's very interesting. I'm afraid I've still got no complaints about the sound. I really liked both tracks.

HOWEVER; based on the previous posts, it seems like you should open up a bit more and realize that not everyone has the same approach. I know this myself, as I've been playing guitar for a while, and reading music thoery, but since I started doing "hour compos" I've ended up last several times and got quite some amounts of critisizm for my composition; ESPECIALLY sound-wise. What I know about playing technique/music theory, I lack of sound/editiing knowledge. Just a reminder. In case I happen to dislike something in your next track =)
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: Sam_Zen on July 25, 2006, 02:40:53
I didn't thought of any sound-quality as an element in this case, obviously it was good enough.
So the content can be ok in its field, but the choice of title can be too pretentious, seeing the content.
Introducing a new beer with the slogan 'this will change the world'.

2 hellscion
OT : As an active moderator and webmaster of other places, I ask :
Why adding this standard logo-bitmap in your post ? It serves nothing, it just takes space. It isn't even a link.
The avatar of your profile is the place for this kind of data.
Title: [industrial-ambient-neo-classical] infernal
Post by: hellscion on July 27, 2006, 00:33:47
apple: nah i'm open-minded to whatever anyone has to say...people just take things in the proper context. i've heard everything they're saying and i know some of these people a little better than they might realize  :twisted: bwahahaha. anyways, who was really open-minded to what i was trying to say...

samzen: maybe i will.