Hi all,
I'm posting here for the first time, so sorry if this news is getting to you too late...
UnTwelve, and organization in the Midwest devoted to microtonal music concerts and education, is having a composition contest, grand prize $400.00. Submissions are due Oct 1st, and all the rules and information can be found at http://www.untwelve.org/competition.html Please read them carefully, as we cannot accept submissions that do not obey all of the posted rules.
We hope that some of you are interested in entering and trying your hand at alternate tuning systems!
Yours in tuning fun,
Aaron Krister Johnson
http://www.untwelve.org
http://www.akjmusic.com
20$ to send a entry, no thanks!
nice business politics, if they receive more than 20entries (which could be realistic estimation, if the compo is spread enough on music sites), they already far in + financially, without much work, because basically the contestants are doing the "dirty" work (collecting the grand prize, and produce the selectable entries). ;)
Even have an option to send more multiple entries, for multiple fee of course. :D
Well, Louigi should not have posted so much about microtonal music lately... I bet that's how you can find MPC via google now. :P Thank you for spamming.
now now.... don't put every blame on poor Louigi again. :lol:
Note: I think it was Chris uncloned who spoke about microtonal music ;) I don't know anything about microtonal at all.
Quote from: "Jojo"Well, Louigi should not have posted so much about microtonal music lately... I bet that's how you can find MPC via google now. :P Thank you for spamming.
I am, as far as I know, the only regular who is a microtonalist here at modplug.
Jojo:This is a funny attitude Jojo if one considers that modplug tracker has native microtonal support. A fact I remind people on the microtonal list quite often. Support for alternate tunings, especially more than 12 notes, is still uncommon.
Also, considering that Aaron posted music in the music forum and a contest link in the general forum I fail to see a problem with that.
That no one appreciates the conditions of the contest I do understand though - I feel much the same about it.
Aaron:
I bet your competition would be more respected if the prize were:
a minimum of $400 with all entry fees going to prizes
The appearance that someone is profiting from the competition is the problem and plowing the fees into the prize would eliminate this.
Jojo:
Louigi is responsible for much evil on the internet but not all of it. I pick up where he leaves off :evil:
Quote from: "uncloned"Louigi is responsible for much evil on the internet
Terrorizing people with his music, for starters? :lol:
yeah - its those drones.... the drones are *evil* I tell you!!
Oh soz, I'm not particulary interested in this topic (nor in modplug's tuning capabilities :P), so I didn't really pay attention who was posting what. :P
Quote from: "Jojo"Oh soz, I'm not particulary interested in this topic (nor in modplug's tuning capabilities :P), so I didn't really pay attention who was posting what. :P
I agree,
no one should be interested in a topic
you are not interested in!
:twisted:
Uhm, now what is this suddenly about? Am I not allowed to voice my personal intersts here?
I'm poking fun at you jojo for this same reason. Because you are not interested in microtonal music you accused louigi of spamming modplug or some such.
No big deal but it is kinda ironic.
Yeah sorry, I'm getting Alzheimer's, you know :P (the truth is that I'm just very scatterbrained, though)
And no, I didn't accuse Louigi of spamming, I accused our new "guest" who is obviously only here to make some advertisement for this "compo".
Quote from: "Jojo"the truth is that I'm just very scatterbrained, though
:shock: o wow, another mutual feat 8)
Quote from: "Jojo"And no, I didn't accuse Louigi of spamming, I accused our new "guest" who is obviously only here to make some advertisement for this "compo".
Yep, that was obvious, me was doing it 2. Other stuffs were clearly a joke from every suspect. =)
he did post a link to his music in the music forum as well
the guy is an accomplished microtonal composer
:(
That doesn't change the fact that he came here for advertising. People often do it like this.
Quote from: "Jojo"And no, I didn't accuse Louigi of spamming, I accused our new "guest" who is obviously only here to make some advertisement for this "compo".
I haven't checked the details of the compo, but do you find something wrong in advertising music related compos in modplug forums or what this is about?
Announcing compos per se is not a bad thing of course; however the intent is clearly visible here I think (user registered just for this, compo "entrance fee", etc.). If f.e. clones suddenly decided to do a microtonal compo and announce it here, it would be completly different story for example.
I think it is safe to say that he didn't know about modplug forum until I posted a link on the microtonal tuning list asking if I could link one of his songs here (with credit to him of course).
It would appear that he decided to link it himself - and tell everyone about the microtonal competition while he was at it.
I would not be surprised to find that these will be his last posts as well.
We should have a S.P.A.M. (self-promotion and miscellaneous I believe it was) forum like at the old board... But in my opinion spam like this that's clearly related to making music is never a problem. And even a compo fee of $20 is hardly a get rich quick scheme.
I read a lot of commotion, but I don't have a problem with this.
Even if you have to pay to enter the compo and can win money with it, I still don't have a problem if he posts about it here. Its up to you to decide if you want to enter it and pay for the entrance fee.
Its not that this is illegal, cus it isn't. We don't have rules preventing him from doing this either. If you disagree on paying money to enter this, simply don't enter the competition.
If you however would like to join this without paying, perhaps you should organize your own competition and see what happens.
Yeah, lots of fuzz here. Actually, if someone here would've said - let's do a mpt compo and there was a fee and it would not be higher than 5-10 dollars, I would considering entering, provided the money goes on to support MPT or smth.
I'm with LP & LV on this -- I have no problem with anyone posting details of a music competition here, fee-based or not.
In fact, I think it's a really good thing -- the more competitions MPC users enter, the more exposure OpenMPT can get, and that's not a bad thing. Nothing wrong with evangelising OpenMPT. :D
and especially a microtonal compo - I doubt *any* other tracker supports truly alternate tunings.....
Which is probably due to the history of trackers (where they came from, what they were used for). However, any tracker can do custom tuning since you have - and you don't have that with MIDI - finetuning for samples. You can fake microtonal tuning with a couple of samples that have different finetuning.
I have done microtonal pieces with traditional trackers. Most alternate tunings have more than 12 notes which makes using traditional trackers extremely complicated.
Would you like to see an example?
http://forum.openmpt.org/index.php?msg=27956.0#msg27956
and I would say "faking" a tuning isn't possible - either it is or isn't