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Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: dacess on May 29, 2007, 13:50:23
It would be good if Modplug could be Midi-sync'd to a multitracker as a slave. If the tempo and song position are controlled by the host, you can record vocals/live instruments on Cubase without having to first convert the MPT track to wave, and load it in to your multitracker. It would be much easier, and quicker to make part changes etc, and you can render the song to wav format when your satisfied there are no more volume, or part changes to make. If anyone already knows a way how to do this, please let me know!!!



Edit by Mod: Added [REQ] tags to the title
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: LevonZOLTAR on June 13, 2007, 07:05:29
thats the feature im really waiting (rewire) . when it comes.. i will be really happy
acid5.0/6.0 with MPT = dopeness!!!!
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: dacess on June 15, 2007, 11:08:29
Tell me about it. I would pay top dollar to have a rewire version of modplug. What kind of music do you make?
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: LevonZOLTAR on June 17, 2007, 14:59:47
i make dub, electro, techno, hiphop beats, scratch music and what ever comes in to my mind.. i love to do music with modplug but nowadays i also want to play lot of thing live , and modplug is not too good for that..  if only you could rewire it ...
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: Sam_Zen on June 17, 2007, 22:47:35
2 LevonZOLTAR
MPT has definitely improved since build .46 for playing live.
Especially for playing hiphop beats I would say.
In fact, with the proper arrangements of channels and instruments, one would only need one pattern, to play a whole song.

I'm planning to write a topic about it in the Technical documents dept. with some examples.
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: LevonZOLTAR on June 19, 2007, 05:38:56
by the live i ment record instruments live(play hardware synths, scratch etc.etc.)  i have used mpt since day one, also openmp so i guess i know pretty much all you can do with it ;)  . sometimes i make some track with mpt and save all the channels as an individual wawe, then put all dat shiit in some daw and records some other stuff in top of that. but thats way too much work plus theres no undos. i think rewiring mpt would be one of the most important features of it, at least for me, and i think for the lot of people that record some stuff. so far good work though, i really enjoy new features!!
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: LPChip on June 19, 2007, 11:23:19
Quote from: "LevonZOLTAR"by the live i ment record instruments live(play hardware synths, scratch etc.etc.)  i have used mpt since day one, also openmp so i guess i know pretty much all you can do with it ;)  . sometimes i make some track with mpt and save all the channels as an individual wawe, then put all dat shiit in some daw and records some other stuff in top of that. but thats way too much work plus theres no undos. i think rewiring mpt would be one of the most important features of it, at least for me, and i think for the lot of people that record some stuff. so far good work though, i really enjoy new features!!

So you are aware of all the functions OpenMPT offers as it comes with transitions on pattern change? (like mute channel, unmute, solo, play pattern x etc...?)
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: Sam_Zen on June 19, 2007, 22:35:23
Yeah, that's what I had in mind. The only thing I still miss is : Stop playback on transition.
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: LPChip on June 20, 2007, 07:36:30
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"Yeah, that's what I had in mind. The only thing I still miss is : Stop playback on transition.

You could mute all at transition, and then when nothing is played, press stop. :)
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: Sam_Zen on June 20, 2007, 23:29:59
You would do me a big favour if you could point me out where to find such an option.
The only solution so far is a jump to some added empty pattern and then stop.
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: LPChip on June 20, 2007, 23:36:49
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"You would do me a big favour if you could point me out where to find such an option.
The only solution so far is a jump to some added empty pattern and then stop.

Solo on transition, then mute that channel on transition? :)
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: Sam_Zen on June 20, 2007, 23:46:27
Nice trick. Tested. You'll have to be quick though, within the time of the pattern.
But I'm afraid we're getting OT here..
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: LPChip on June 21, 2007, 11:05:11
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"Nice trick. Tested. You'll have to be quick though, within the time of the pattern.
But I'm afraid we're getting OT here..

Last thing to be off-topic then... :P

You can also solo an empty channel on transition. :)
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: älskling on June 21, 2007, 11:25:26
Regarding ReWire, the licensing scheme pretty much makes it impossible to implement in an open source application.
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: dacess on June 22, 2007, 07:46:35
Even midi-sync would do. I do agree that Modplug has come a long way though. Out of reason, cubase, magix, ableton live, i still prefer to use Modplug simply because of ease and speed of use. It's just a shame its so limited when it comes to linking it with other software.
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: levon zoltar on March 26, 2008, 09:28:34
Quote from: "LPChip"
Quote from: "LevonZOLTAR"by the live i ment record instruments live(play hardware synths, scratch etc.etc.)  i have used mpt since day one, also openmp so i guess i know pretty much all you can do with it ;)  . sometimes i make some track with mpt and save all the channels as an individual wawe, then put all dat shiit in some daw and records some other stuff in top of that. but thats way too much work plus theres no undos. i think rewiring mpt would be one of the most important features of it, at least for me, and i think for the lot of people that record some stuff. so far good work though, i really enjoy new features!!

So you are aware of all the functions OpenMPT offers as it comes with transitions on pattern change? (like mute channel, unmute, solo, play pattern x etc...?)

what the f*ck those functions got to do with recording live??(and once again, by the live, i mean playing instruments, not programming mpt) i mean that, it would be nice that you could RECORD WAWEs like in daws. if you could sync mpt for example with acid, you could do programming in Mpt AND record real live playing on top of it in acid, without fuckin with the wawes everytime you wanna change something in Mpt.. capito??
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: LPChip on March 26, 2008, 10:43:54
I thought, you ment the ability to use mpt as an instrument itself.

There's no need to swear though. Everyone can make a mistake, so if you're willing to let me make one, I'd be pleased. :D

But you mean the ability to record a wav file during playback so that it becomes a sample and automatically is being entered in the pattern, right?
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: levon zoltar on March 26, 2008, 12:57:55
Quote from: "LPChip"I thought, you ment the ability to use mpt as an instrument itself.

There's no need to swear though. Everyone can make a mistake, so if you're willing to let me make one, I'd be pleased. :D

But you mean the ability to record a wav file during playback so that it becomes a sample and automatically is being entered in the pattern, right?

sorry, i guess i was pissed at work :D anyway... best case scenario would be that i could sync MPT with other programs exmpl. Acid , so if i press rec/play in acid the mpt would start playing also
and their tempos would be synced , so i could do programming in MPT and recording/wawe editing in acid...   i´ve been doing this with mpt and soundforge ... i press play in mpt and record(vocals etc) with forge then copy/paste sample to mpt,  it works aiiith with short and medium sized files... but when it comes to vocals and long solos etc. its pretty annoying.. and because mpt and forge are not in sync, you have to find exact start point everytime wich is also annouying... so i dont need to record live as a live on stage etc. i guess more correct term is record(and playback) in sync?? sorry about swearing!!
pz out
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: levon zoltar on March 26, 2008, 13:05:33
www.myspace.com/levonzoltar

all the tracks made with mpt except "just a quickie" and "ninja commitment"
wich i made with mpt and acid...
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: anboi on March 26, 2008, 22:11:59
midi sync would be nice, and being able to sync two instances of mpt would be very useful as well. i think i actually had a weird build with that option in, possibly done by a coder who's not a regular on here, i can't remember. it was a pretty old version though.
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: Relabsoluness on March 26, 2008, 22:49:05
Quote from: "anboi"...being able to sync two instances of mpt would be very useful as well. i think i actually had a weird build with that option in, possibly done by a coder who's not a regular on here, i can't remember. it was a pretty old version though.
The build was named Modplug23. The latest version I'm aware of is from 2006.
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: levon zoltar on March 27, 2008, 22:26:29
actually best solution for this would be that MPT would function as a vst instrument... that would solve all the problems with wawe recording and syncing. that would be ultra versatile tool... imagine any daw with couple of tracks of mpts with other plugs + wawe recording, editing at the same time all in sync... like a revisit tracker, except that sucks as a tracker..
nice on paper
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: älskling on March 28, 2008, 05:20:43
Quote from: "levon zoltar"actually best solution for this would be that MPT would function as a vst instrument...

Did you try pelyas's vsti version (http://forum.openmpt.org/index.php?msg=14620.0&highlight=#14620)?
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: levon zoltar on March 28, 2008, 14:55:43
downloaded it , i doesnt seem to work properly , i got it work in acid 6.0 , and once i even got mpt to play sync with acid , but now it only works like normal mpt but audio comes out from acid... please help me if you can
Title: Midi Sync with Cubase/Adobe Audition 1.5
Post by: älskling on March 28, 2008, 15:21:55
Quote from: "levon zoltar"downloaded it , i doesnt seem to work properly , i got it work in acid 6.0 , and once i even got mpt to play sync with acid , but now it only works like normal mpt but audio comes out from acid... please help me if you can
It probably is quite buggy. Didn't try it myself as it's not a feature I'm that interested in (at least not right now), but try PM:ing Pelya. I'm sure he'd like some input (unless he lost interest due to the underwhelming response when he originally posted about it).