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Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: LPChip on August 26, 2006, 12:53:24
There are currently 5 tabs per song: General, Patterns, Samples, Instruments and Comments.

Maybe its an idea to allow it to become seperate windows, so you can put them on 2 monitors if you have it?

I think its best to just allow to undock one window, and leave the song itself in tact, so it just makes a replica of that tab in a new window?

This way, you can edit the patterns while tweaking in the general tab, and if my other request about plugins has been realised, you can do that too.
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Relabsoluness on August 26, 2006, 21:03:00
Have you tried to the 'new window' thing available in 'Window'-menu in the menu bar? It at least allows several windows for one modfile, but I've never tried it with multiple screens.
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: SoundCrafter on August 26, 2006, 23:47:06
I think if most of us could afford multiple screens, we wouldn't be using modplug. Just my opinion though.
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: LPChip on August 26, 2006, 23:54:25
When I click it, I do get several windows, which is quite the thing I'm after.

The only downside is, that updating of several windows isn't working properly. Eg: I have both views in the pattern editor, on the same pattern, and I insert one note, it doesn't directly show up on the other screen. Deleting works good though. I see you asking: why have the same window on the screen? :P But there could be occasions where synced updates between the windows is wanted.

Good to know this feature exists though.
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: speed-goddamn-focus on August 27, 2006, 00:11:36
Quote from: "SoundCrafter"I think if most of us could afford multiple screens, we wouldn't be using modplug. Just my opinion though.
The price for an extra screen is less than most sequencers...
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: SoundCrafter on August 27, 2006, 00:46:26
Perhaps that was phrased wrong. But if I had money to spare, I'd buy a sequencer before I bought a second monitor. Thats what I meant by 'afford'
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Snu on August 27, 2006, 03:32:33
Quote from: "SoundCrafter"I think if most of us could afford multiple screens, we wouldn't be using modplug. Just my opinion though.
i have dual monitors, both of which i got for free (they are 17" crts - those are everywhere and dirt cheap).
it would be nice to have 2 21" lcd screens of course... but i would rather have two 17" crts than one 21" lcd.
that multiple windows thing is nice, but modplug needs the ability to save a default window layout for this to be very useful.
anyway, i think modplug works quite well on one monitor/one window, switching tabs is fast, and one spends most of the time in the pattern editor anyway.
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: LPChip on August 27, 2006, 10:12:22
Don't forget the people that actually do have a bit of money but just hate sequencers :P
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Snu on August 27, 2006, 17:14:47
Quote from: "LPChip"Don't forget the people that actually do have a bit of money but just hate sequencers :P
which category i partially fall into... exept for the having money part -_-
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: speed-goddamn-focus on August 27, 2006, 17:36:40
Quote from: "Snu"
Quote from: "LPChip"Don't forget the people that actually do have a bit of money but just hate sequencers :P
which category i partially fall into... exept for the having money part -_-
yeah me too... and also except hating sequencers. it's silly to hate a piece of software with so much nasty people in the world.
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Waxhead on September 07, 2006, 21:29:21
Heh... I like LpChips suggestion since I have three monitors. 19" CRT, 21" CRT and a 23" flatpanel :) ...oh and did I mention I also have a large 3000VA UPS that I run all my computers on. And ofcourse there's no point in having a nice stack of computers if you don't have a delicious 2 meter high 19" rack who happens to be extra deep, just for fun ...And I almost forgot - I didn't pay anything for most of this equipment ;D
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: SoundCrafter on September 07, 2006, 21:36:14
Quote from: "Waxhead"Heh... I like LpChips suggestion since I have three monitors. 19" CRT, 21" CRT and a 23" flatpanel :) ...oh and did I mention I also have a large 3000VA UPS that I run all my computers on. And ofcourse there's no point in having a nice stack of computers if you don't have a delicious 2 meter high 19" rack who happens to be extra deep, just for fun ...And I almost forgot - I didn't pay anything for most of this equipment ;D

*Locks all of his music equipment up* YOU'RE NOT GETTING THIS!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

So how did you get all that stuff for cheap as free?
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: LPChip on September 07, 2006, 22:03:54
Quote from: "SoundCrafter"
So how did you get all that stuff for cheap as free?

I for once have a job that actually gives me money to buy stuff :nuts:
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Waxhead on September 07, 2006, 22:11:16
Quote from: "SoundCrafter"

So how did you get all that stuff for cheap as free?

Actually they gave most of it away at where I work ;)
edit: And honestly - most of it is actually outdated :P
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: HvitRavn on April 29, 2007, 22:16:36
Humm, the "New window" feature seems a little unstable. I tried it just now for the first time and clicked around on the tabs in the two windows, and suddenly MPT disappeared :/

Anyway, cool feature, it could be really useful if the windows could be detached from the MPT MDI parent window. Maybe I should start a new topic for that?
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Saga Musix on April 30, 2007, 12:57:18
Quote from: "Snu"
Quote from: "SoundCrafter"I think if most of us could afford multiple screens, we wouldn't be using modplug. Just my opinion though.
i have dual monitors, both of which i got for free (they are 17" crts - those are everywhere and dirt cheap).
it would be nice to have 2 21" lcd screens of course... but i would rather have two 17" crts than one 21" lcd.
that multiple windows thing is nice, but modplug needs the ability to save a default window layout for this to be very useful.
anyway, i think modplug works quite well on one monitor/one window, switching tabs is fast, and one spends most of the time in the pattern editor anyway.

okay, and since modplug has finally its own file format, those windows position could be saved in it... but some problems may accompain this setting, what i mean is opening a module from another computer. maybe those settings could also be saved in the modplug settings rather than in the module itself?!
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Snu on May 01, 2007, 03:12:47
i didnt mean saving in the file, i dont think window layouts is the kind of thing that should be saved in a file.  rather, it should be saved in modplug's configuration so its identical the next time you open a file, and after you close and restart modplug.
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Saga Musix on May 01, 2007, 10:55:21
well, that's exactly what i said :lol:
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Snu on May 01, 2007, 16:07:56
Quote from: "Jojo"well, that's exactly what i said :lol:
yah, just letting it be known that it was exactly what i said also :)
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Skaven on February 09, 2009, 05:05:14
Thread necromancy. This gets a +1 from me, yep. Moving the sample / instrument editor to another display could help.

Would be handy to be able to float the Tree View too, so that I could move it to the secondary display (AFAIK, the Tree View is currently fixed to the left side of the MPT window). I like seeing as many channels simultaneously as I can, and moving the tree view aside would help there (and also saves the trouble of constantly having to shift the tree view forth and back to view it or the channels).

Which reminds me, the scalable view (hi/med/low channel zoom) is handy for getting the big picture, but editing in Lo detail mode is difficult because you can't access the volume / command columns. How about a display mode where the current channel (where the cursor is at) is displayed in full detail, but all the channels around it are displayed in low detail? Would it look confusing?
Title: Ability to turn the song's tabs into windows
Post by: Harbinger on February 14, 2009, 01:36:22
Actually that's +3 for a necromancer. You need to roll the 12-sided die to determine extra hit points, and but might i suggest you read you magic users spellbook --- at level 12, you'll find something interesting in the next room which may require level 3 Invisibility. :evil: