With big thanks to the CTGMusic.com website:
The staff of CTG have let me known that there's a ripper active.
What is a ripper?
A ripper is a nasty noob (newbe) that steals other people's music, and tells everyone its his. He's taking all the fame while others should get that precious fame. Rippers is the worst thing you can be in this community.
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The guy that we're talking about is calling himself DJEnis. In fact, he's active on CTGMusic. He seems to be from turkey or atleast is able to read and write in that language. He've used other good music and claimed it was his own for commercial purposes. This SICK basterd actually made some money out of this.
The noob's website can be located at: http://djenis1.tripod.com//mp3.html
Why this harch language?
People that act like this are criminals. They DO NOT deserve to be treated differently. In the past, rippers were banned from the scene like this too. Don't let your music be part of his fame! STOP THE RIPPER!!!!!
Damn foreigners :lol:
Quote from: "LPChip"
The noob's website can be located at: http://djenis1.tripod.com//mp3.html
and check his "friends (http://www.bigfoot-records.de)" out
:shock:
seems that this shithead is physically active in Germany
might seem irrelevant, but what/who did he rip?
I feel evidence that he has ripped is essential before we start any lynching.
Quote from: "rewbs"I feel evidence that he has ripped is essential before we start any lynching.
agrood eh greed
I'm not the verbal lynching type... if this guy actually did anything like that I'd say it's time we informed the website keepers.
I never let a single paypal hoax survive me and I'll be damned if I let this one go before killing it first!
So... give me confirmation that it is rips, once I have that, DJEnis is gonna be sorry he ever came online.
:? It's people like this that end up screwing everything up for everybody else. When they're discovered then people get nuked banned and/or flamed at the very least. I for one think there should be enforced laws against this. But I guess since we don't pay the government millions of dollars to police these kind of things, aside from the millions of dollars we fork over for taxes, then it won't happen. You may not know who I am and that's because I'm not great at using MPT, I dabble here and there but nothing serious. BUT, I do enjoy downloading your music here because I am a big fan of the genres of music that your songs fit into... especially Trance. Anyway... I hope he discontinues his plagiarism by some means whether he's caught or he just gets tired of being flamed on his own site and in his e-mail inbox for the wrongs he does. Keep it up guys... love your music!
It's hard for any government to enforce federal laws on a global network, so we are infact just plain screwed :cry:
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"It's hard for any government to enforce federal laws on a global network, so we are infact just plain screwed :cry:
The first mistake would be relying on government to be the solution to anything... :lol:
Quote from: "LPChip"People that act like this are criminals. They DO NOT deserve to be treated differently.
It's not a matter of deserving. It is a matter of fact, according to common copyright laws, that it's a criminal
act to take someone's work and tell that they themselves made it. This is valid for the work of any citizen, whether
registrated at some copyright organisation (buma, riaa) or not.
The fact that he actually made some money out of it, is not that relevant to me. Let him choke in his lousy bucks.
I'm afraid really stopping such losers is not possible, but one can make it more difficult for them to do so.
So to me, the technical aspects are more important : how does he rip ? Manually or with some robot-script ?
I know of some tools named 'crawlers', that scan a website on the presence of files with a .mp3 extension, and
then automatically download all those files. Experiences like that made me decide to convert all tracks to the
ogg-format. And, to make it even more difficult, offering them as zips.
I know I'm losing the streaming option in this way, but I got some more protection against these practices back for it.
One method (there are more) to block those crawlers is to add this line in the head of the html-file :
<meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow">
well, i know that if both the ripper and the person who's music is being ripped live in the us, the rip-ee could sue the ripper...
even if the songs are not officially registered at the copyright office, they are copyrighted at the moment they are finished according to US law.
theoretically anyway, not sure how such a trial would go in actuality, but if the ripper had just the mp3s, and the rip-ee had the original modules, it would be a pretty straight forward case i think.
Quote from: "MisterX"Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"It's hard for any government to enforce federal laws on a global network, so we are infact just plain screwed :cry:
The first mistake would be relying on government to be the solution to anything... :lol:
The government is my supplier of income and healthcare insurance. Although I have to admit medicare prescription coverage screwed things up :?
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"One method (there are more) to block those crawlers is to add this line in the head of the html-file :
<meta name="robots" content="noindex, nofollow">
This is true, but it only works for "friendly" bots that actually pay attention to those things. I'm afraid that your solution (ZIPped OGG) is a better method. :wink:
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"The government is my supplier of income and healthcare insurance. Although I have to admit medicare prescription coverage screwed things up :?
I'm very sorry to hear that - hopefully you can get out of "the system" ASAP and not have to rely on beurocrats for your bread and butter. :wink:
I've talked to some of the CTG Staff, and this is what they told me:
Its easy to recognise that these songs are stolen, cus this dude forget to change the original ID3 Tags.
For instance:
http://www.freewebtown.com/dj_enis/djenis-enough.mp3
This song was originaly made by Chris Micali which is signed by another label.
He did changed ID3 tags, but not all so if you request them, the original ID3 tags become visible. This is for all songs!
I have only just descovered this thread. Serious shit. I hate the rippers! Its not nice at all. i will keep my eyes out for the tags on what I am downloading
Nickythenose
2 MisterX
I was aware of the fact, that the 'head-line' is not fullproof, but, sorry, didn't mention it. In cases of this, I think that every percentage helps.
Quote from: "Snu"if the ripper had just the mp3s, and the rip-ee had the original modules, it would be a pretty straight forward case i think.
Good point for people to realize. The compression is lossy, so the conversion backwards never can reproduce exactly the same bytes as the original. It's obvious with a module, but this is also valid for the exported wav-file of the tracker.
For the same reason I have an archive of originals, before I burn the tracks on the Cd's I publish, which are a little bit different. There are several tricks to do this without altering the sound of the track. Example :
Set a filter or equalizer to 'flat', and save the result as another named wav. It will sound exactly the same, but some bytes will be slightly different. This also is an irreversible proces.
Is he on the www.modarchive.com rippers list? If not, then they should be informed... cuz.... ALOT of ppl know of that site.
Sad to hear that there are still so many of these darned rippers... I had expected that with the era of encoded audio, this would at least flat down a bit. But it looks even worse (and making even just a few bucks with someone elses hard work is a crime and doesn't just break intellectual copyright laws.. it goes beyond that).
One of my fellow collegues (GDream, some might know him), experienced a similar problem a while back... a guy stole 4 or 5 of his tracks (mp3 encoded) and was selling these on mp3.com.. retagged and retitled. Worst was, even after contacting mp3.com and complaining about this abuse, the tracks weren't removed, they didn't even try to sort out whether it was true or not.
There are really sick people out there..
Quote from: "MisterX"Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"It's hard for any government to enforce federal laws on a global network, so we are infact just plain screwed :cry:
The first mistake would be relying on government to be the solution to anything... :lol:
:D
Quote from: "goor00"Sad to hear that there are still so many of these darned rippers... I had expected that with the era of encoded audio, this would at least flat down a bit. But it looks even worse (and making even just a few bucks with someone elses hard work is a crime and doesn't just break intellectual copyright laws.. it goes beyond that).
One of my fellow collegues (GDream, some might know him), experienced a similar problem a while back... a guy stole 4 or 5 of his tracks (mp3 encoded) and was selling these on mp3.com.. retagged and retitled. Worst was, even after contacting mp3.com and complaining about this abuse, the tracks weren't removed, they didn't even try to sort out whether it was true or not.
There are really sick people out there..
I remember GDream, he made a cool song "Laura Dance To The Music" that I still listen to. Whatever happened to him?
its pretty hard to believe someone will actually feel GOOD about ripping other people's tracks for fame, but believe me they get a real big boner out of it, and mostly they're even underaged most likely. They dont yet get it that soon their plans will fall apart because of simple things like, real ID3 tags squeezing through, all ripped songs sound actually too different from eachother that it couldn't be made by one and the same person, etc etc.
I don't feel a big threat for him ripping my music, because:
A) he mainly ripps music i dislike highly
B) IF he intends to ripp my music, i'll eventually find out, and bomb his ass and the people that like him so much with the good ol' powerfull "source file". Simply if he doesnt have the source file, he's gonna be screwed by the one who has it. Just keep an eye on him and his 'releases', and let his world collaps all by itself
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"
I remember GDream, he made a cool song "Laura Dance To The Music" that I still listen to. Whatever happened to him?
Well, he retired from "the scene" a couple of months ago. His everyday life (job, wife, children..) didn't leave him enough spare time to spend on music making, or that's at least what he told me.
I've gotta say after looking at the page, there seems to be no evidence of ripping. All of the music downloads on the page appear to have original artist credits to them. Most are remixes and then there are 3 songs that have Dj Enis as the writer.
This is pretty typical of Dj marketing. Keoki, Adam Freeland, Afrika Bambataa all had albums sold only as an hour length mix of other artists music. Of course, there always needs to be consent from the original writer or producer before something can be sold commercially. In such case, we'll just hope Madonna doesn't catch him.
I'm gonna say that this guy is safe. Dj's are Dj's. I myself play a lot of music at the club without permission from the artist. I burn mix CDs of artists I want to promote and use them as give-a-ways. I'm positive that only those stingy record companies could give a hoot.
Now, if he put together an album and claimed to be the sole author of the music. That's deep poo-poo.
Quote from: "Bubblenugget"I've gotta say after looking at the page, there seems to be no evidence of ripping. All of the music downloads on the page appear to have original artist credits to them. Most are remixes and then there are 3 songs that have Dj Enis as the writer.
This is pretty typical of Dj marketing. Keoki, Adam Freeland, Afrika Bambataa all had albums sold only as an hour length mix of other artists music. Of course, there always needs to be consent from the original writer or producer before something can be sold commercially. In such case, we'll just hope Madonna doesn't catch him.
I'm gonna say that this guy is safe. Dj's are Dj's. I myself play a lot of music at the club without permission from the artist. I burn mix CDs of artists I want to promote and use them as give-a-ways. I'm positive that only those stingy record companies could give a hoot.
Now, if he put together an album and claimed to be the sole author of the music. That's deep poo-poo.
Yes, They initially show his ID3 tags. But as soon as you request all ID3 tags, the original becomes visible.
Oh, how nice.
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Quote from: "LPChip"Yes, They initially show his ID3 tags. But as soon as you request all ID3 tags, the original becomes visible.
The original composer was clearly shown on the Mp3 download page too.
So there I don't think he is any different from any other of those DJ's. Or was the remixes also done by somebody else and that guy claims he remixed them or something?
Now, I'm not very fond of DJ's at all, but I don't see what makes this one worse than any other of them. Sure, he probably hasn't asked the original artists for permission to mix their songs, but I don't think many of the less-known DJ's do.
Are you guys sure he didnt modify the page and files after he was discovered? Has anyone been to the site right when he was detected? Maybe he changed them
So, if this guy ripped someones music and made money from it, why doesn't someone notify the owners of the ripped music? Also, are the musicians actually aware of the big RIP? :?:
I read about Jay Newingham and his big RIP that took place in 2000. He ripped PM's music, Unreal's, and others. He of course was promptly run off the internet through guest book and email badgerings by various mod musicians and the like. The thing that bothered me about J.N's deal is what was said about Americans having a low scene and that basically they are losers in a different context. Jay is an American. I am not predjudice and I think that there are people from all countries that indulge in bad actions. We are all people with RED blood which makes us all one race, and that is the human race, no matter what nationality we are. If someone rips a song and they are from a particular country, that doesn't mean all people in that country are bad.
As for this new ripper you speak of in this forum, he will in good turn come to a bad end, all on his own. His own karma will either make him or break him. :wink:
Quote from: "reno373"So, if this guy ripped someones music and made money from it, why doesn't someone notify the owners of the ripped music? Also, are the musicians actually aware of the big RIP? :?:
I read about Jay Newingham and his big RIP that took place in 2000. He ripped PM's music, Unreal's, and others. He of course was promptly run off the internet through guest book and email badgerings by various mod musicians and the like. The thing that bothered me about J.N's deal is what was said about Americans having a low scene and that basically they are losers in a different context. Jay is an American. I am not predjudice and I think that there are people from all countries that indulge in bad actions. We are all people with RED blood which makes us all one race, and that is the human race, no matter what nationality we are. If someone rips a song and they are from a particular country, that doesn't mean all people in that country are bad.
As for this new ripper you speak of in this forum, he will in good turn come to a bad end, all on his own. His own karma will either make him or break him. :wink:
Don't forget about our animal bretheren, they have red blood as well, no more or less important than us. Except we eat them, but not everyone.
About nationality, you can't be a "My country is the best" person on the internet, it's a global network. I have posed as someone from all different places on the internet, and so often I hear "YOu &$%( foreigner!" And I'm always like "Foreign to what, the internet? It's in my country just as much as yours".
My absolute fave "In your face" moment was when I was posing as a Swede named "Bjarn", and one kid goes "Were your parent on crack when they gave you that name?" And I went "Crack is an American drug, moron". ::)
Oh yeah, if you are wondering why I pose as different people (which I don't do anymore), I like to screw with prejeduce people. They will rarely ever change, so I just pose as a gay/black/swede/religious nut or something, just to force them to get along with me. Then I waste them at online gaming, and go "Haha, you got fragged by a fag/girl/whatever!" :twisted:
This is old news now IMHO.
If noone protests within the next few days I'll demote this thread from the "anouncement" status to that of a mere regular thread.
Squirrel, good response! We are animal mammal. Woooohooooo.
So now I take on my wolf form and bite bad asses.
ow ow owooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Where did the moon go? :lol:
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"My absolute fave "In your face" moment was when I was posing as a Swede named "Bjarn", and one kid goes "Were your parent on crack when they gave you that name?" And I went "Crack is an American drug, moron". ::)
Hehe, too bad Bjarn isn't a real Swedish name though. The correct spelling is Bj?rn (Bjoern). :)
Quote from: "fisk0"Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"My absolute fave "In your face" moment was when I was posing as a Swede named "Bjarn", and one kid goes "Were your parent on crack when they gave you that name?" And I went "Crack is an American drug, moron". ::)
Hehe, too bad Bjarn isn't a real Swedish name though. The correct spelling is Bj?rn (Bjoern). :)
Or perhaps Bjarne.
Hey I'm just a dumb American, what do you expect? I mean it sounds Swedish, so it's close enough to fool other dumb Americans
Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"Hey I'm just a dumb American, what do you expect? I mean it sounds Swedish, so it's close enough to fool other dumb Americans
And my name is Blowdy Blewdy and I'm from Nashville Texas!
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"Quote from: "Squirrel Havoc"Hey I'm just a dumb American, what do you expect? I mean it sounds Swedish, so it's close enough to fool other dumb Americans
And my name is Blowdy Blewdy and I'm from Nashville Texas!
Hehehe actually it would be Billy Bob Bub Boingeroonie from Clinton County, Arkansas!
EDIT: Just to give you an idea of Americans, my doctor is Swiss, and he sounds just like he is, but the people he works with are always like "Yeah he's from Sweden". And I'm like "Don't you mean Switzerland?" *I can't spell it*, and they go "Well it's one of those countries". And these are people with 6 years college experience!
Although I'm no exception, I thought he was Austrian when I first heard his voice :wink: