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Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: vicktech on October 19, 2010, 21:10:21
Please help me to identify style of this composition: http://rapidshare.com/files/426046696/07hantu2.xm
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: KrazyKatz on October 19, 2010, 22:51:09
I'd say it's Jungle Electronic using the Middle Eastern genre as a grounding.
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: Saga Musix on October 19, 2010, 23:12:38
Jungle? Far from it. This is happy hardcore with stray random eastern samples.
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: KrazyKatz on October 19, 2010, 23:17:07
Heck... have it your way. Happy Hardcore it is. At least from what Wiki defines it as. The closest thing I could think of at that speed was Jungle until my discovery of Happy Hardcore. I think an eastern sample straying in is a bit of an oversimplification, but then again..
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: psishock on October 19, 2010, 23:22:00
This is 100% Happy Hardcore. No more, no less.
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: KrazyKatz on October 19, 2010, 23:22:26
Errr... having listened to some Happy Hardcore... Honestly, I'm more inclined to go the Jungle direction... but then I am probably using the Jungle genre incorrectly. Happy Hardcore has a distinct "Happy" element about it which this doesn't.

I think I'm just going to back out of this one.
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: Saga Musix on October 19, 2010, 23:29:41
Well, drop the "Happy" then. Jungle has a completely different kind of beat. This beat and vibes are 100% hardcore, like in this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i639BMgSyMc) or this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KJ__06kyxs). or this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMihpjZ03_w) :D
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: psishock on October 19, 2010, 23:30:06
Well i've listened several happy hardcore tracks, they could included samples from various sources and genres, like house, pop, classical, techno, and so on.

The definition of the "Happy" part, in the nutshell is:
much more lighter and brighter than the regular hardcore, doesnt contain killer heavy sounds, so its much more acceptable to masses. In most cases it has high pitched sampled vocals, rather than the usual, very deep pitched and detuned "hardcore" ones.
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: psishock on October 19, 2010, 23:36:24
Quote from: "Jojo"Well, drop the "Happy" then. Jungle has a completely different kind of beat. This beat and vibes are 100% hardcore, like in this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i639BMgSyMc) or this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KJ__06kyxs).

yep, those are some clear examples of the good old cheezy happy hardcore sounds :)

Scot Brown is also a happy hardcore "god", everybody knows this from him, ant it clearly describes the genre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvLqDcTnhWA
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: LPChip on October 20, 2010, 08:15:34
I'm currently at work, so I cannot check the song.

If the rythm is 4/4 (every beat has a basedrum) and its pretty fast, with some mild variations on the off-beats, then its happy hardcore.

If the drums are quite irregular and can be described as a continuous drumfill, then its jungle. Anything in between probably is electronic or perhaps even Drum'n'Base?
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: LPChip on October 20, 2010, 21:36:16
Listening now...

This is a mix between hardcore and happy hardcore. It leans pretty much towards happy hardcore, but happy hardcore also has these happy melodies in it, which are not present here.

This definitely is not jungle.
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: vicktech on October 21, 2010, 00:18:13
Thank you for help, everyone.

I have another question:
Is there style named extreme?
Usually there's used halftone note shifts, from time to time, which pumps up nerves a little bit.
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: psishock on October 21, 2010, 00:38:56
No.
Title: Need help in style determination.
Post by: LPChip on October 21, 2010, 10:43:53
There isn't.

The part "hard" already means that it is extreme.