Download at trax-in-space (http://www.traxinspace.com/song/47165).
Sorry, the original post has been lost.
(Ignore the next post by uncloned....)
here is Harbinger's post
http://soonlabel.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1270067356
Very good, solid piece !
Maybe a bit too cheerful for my personal taste but nevertheless a nice and enjoyable piece.
Thanks, guys. Just a little knickknack for the mantle...
Yeah, Eagle, game shows from the 70s were all so quaint and cheerful!! :P
Um, yes, maybe.
I was a child in the 70s and I really don't remember game shows from that time... :wink:
Great stuff. Listening for the second time as I'm writing. The way the hi-hat is accentuated fits nicely. The change of rhythm around the middle of the song is refreshing, and the new beat itself is very groovy. I am not quite sure what goes on bass-wise, yet it is enjoyable. The beginning sounds like a riff suggesting a major tonality (the other instruments don't necessarily follow the suggestion, and this works very good here, renders the music potentially more interesting), then the mood alters too with the mentioned groove change. I'm very impressed by the leads in this track. Uninspired towards the end, I think Harbinger wrote on the Soonlabel site? Well, I disagree. I didn't react negatively to anything particularly. I might edit this post if I react to anything during future listens, but I wouldn't expect very much.
Quote from: "TheEagle"Um, yes, maybe.
I was a child in the 70s and I really don't remember game shows from that time... :wink:
Oh, come-on! Match Game '77 or Password...Let's Make a Deal...the Gong Show! Classics indeed! Especially Match Game with host Gene Rayburn! :P
I browsed for additional uploads, and found some, but the download server is obviously down. Will it work soon? If not, are these other songs, or will they be, uploaded elsewhere? I really liked the one track I've checked so far via the SoOn site.
Quote from: "apple-joe"I browsed for additional uploads, and found some, but the download server is obviously down. Will it work soon? If not, are these other songs, or will they be, uploaded elsewhere? I really liked the one track I've checked so far via the SoOn site.
Can I ask what are you talking about?
download.modplug.com redirects to http://modplug.soonlabel.com/
MrX uploaded all of the modlpug files he had to there.
look in
http://modplug.soonlabel.com/music/
Quote from: "uncloned"download.modplug.com redirects to http://modplug.soonlabel.com/
MrX uploaded all of the modlpug files he had to there.
If that is the case, many of the songs seem to be lost. I tried to find some songs from different composers that were presented and hosted here within the last six months.
I've found nothing...
the most likely scenario is that those songs were not backed up.
It is not as easy backing up off of the internet as it is from your own computer.
And I look at this as being a glass half full, not half empty. Lots of songs were saved.
Quote from: "uncloned"And I look at this as being a glass half full, not half empty. Lots of songs were saved.
Yes, indeed.
To avoid misunderstandings: my posting was just a statement and not a reproach...
QuoteCan I ask what are you talking about?
download.modplug.com redirects to http://modplug.soonlabel.com/
MrX uploaded all of the modlpug files he had to there.
look in
http://modplug.soonlabel.com/music/
I liked this Harbinger track, so I decided to look for additional uploads, but all relevant download links (in Free Downloads section) seemed dead. I'll check soonlabel.com/music.
what is this free downloads section?
I'm thinking it is not my site...
Quote from: "uncloned"what is this free downloads section?
I'm thinking it is not my site...
I think he means the "Free Music Downloads"-section right here.
I suspect he took a look into Harbingers profile ("Songs posted by Harbinger in the Free Music Downloads forum") in order to find some other songs by Harbinger. Of course that doesn't work since the modplug.com dl-server went offline...
I picked six Harbinger titles found on this site and checked the three folders of soonlabel.com/music, but there were no matches. I used the "edit --> search page" option of Firefox and searched for a succession of letters contained in the relevant title.
I had about 4 songs in the MP Download center. Couldn't find them back in the new database.
No big deal. Of course I've got the originals.
Every re-housing does have its damage.
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"I had about 4 songs in the MP Download center. Couldn't find them back in the new database.
No big deal. Of course I've got the originals.
Every re-housing does have its damage.
So you're thinking in traditional terms here, maybe even trying to find an excuse for yourself why someone fucked up. The great thing about "digital re-housing" is that it is normally very easy
not to lose anything, and I personally consider the modplug download page an archive, just like modarchive - something that should never shrink, but grow, because it archives great showcases of (tracked) music over the last decade. It would be terrible if modarchive lost one single file!
Quote from: "Jojo"The great thing about "digital re-housing" is that it is normally very easy not to lose anything...
...if regular backups had been made. I suspect that has been neglected and the "new" database is nothing else than a very old restored backup of the original database.
Tragic, but that's the way it is....
do you guys complain about everything?
I'm not complaining. I only speculate about what might have happened...
Quote from: "uncloned"do you guys complain about everything?
sorry, but after seeing how modplug central went down the drain over the last decade, there's not much left for me apart from complaining (and of course my humble attempt at providing at least a usable frontpage again).
Quote from: "Jojo"Quote from: "uncloned"do you guys complain about everything?
sorry, but after seeing how modplug central went down the drain over the last decade, there's not much left for me apart from complaining (and of course my humble attempt at providing at least a usable frontpage again).
It is up to YOU and everyone else here to make this community what you want it to be.
That is why I offered to host the music for the modplug community. I wanted to give back, I wanted to make it better.
QuoteIt is up to YOU and everyone else here to make this community what you want it to be.
Well, apparently people don't care too much about what a great (in both the "cool" and "big" sense) place this used to be anymore.
QuoteThat is why I offered to host the music for the modplug community. I wanted to give back, I wanted to make it better.
Yes, and that is very generous of you (in case you did not notice, I did never blamed you) - you just got the files and uploaded them, I would not think you left files out on purpose while uploading them. However, apparently whoever took care of this place before did not care too much about it.
Quote from: "Jojo"QuoteIt is up to YOU and everyone else here to make this community what you want it to be.
Well, apparently people don't care too much about what a great (in both the "cool" and "big" sense) place this used to be anymore.
QuoteThat is why I offered to host the music for the modplug community. I wanted to give back, I wanted to make it better.
Yes, and that is very generous of you (in case you did not notice, I did never blamed you) - you just got the files and uploaded them, I would not think you left files out on purpose while uploading them. However, apparently whoever took care of this place before did not care too much about it.
I didn't upload the files - what happened is explained in the thread in General.
And I think you are so wrong to say Mr X didn't / doesn't care about this place.
Kim is one of the pillars of the module scene - he has been for a very long time. Like a decade. The money for hosting MPC and the downloads has been coming out of *his* pocket not yours.
Franky JOJO you don't know what you are talking about....
QuoteAnd I think you are so wrong to say Mr X didn't / doesn't care about this place.
Right, I might not have been around here during MPC's zenith when adminstrators like MisterX still cared about this place, but what have our awesome administrators done since the last crash? Exactly 0% IMO. I am neither the site owner nor an administrator, so I cannot do much about that apart from fiddling around with a new experimental site - and until it goes live, nothing else is going to be done by the current administrators.
QuoteKim is one of the pillars of the module scene - he has been for a very long time. Like a decade.
More like the ModPlug scene (if he has done other great projects which I'm not aware of, let me know).
QuoteThe money for hosting MPC and the downloads has been coming out of *his* pocket not yours.
That is a very nice thing of course, but not the most important thing, I guess - If everyone pays a little (someone hosting the main site, someone paying for the domain, someone sponsoring a download server, like it's done right now), that's a much better system IMO.
QuoteFranky JOJO you don't know what you are talking about....
Trust me, I do. I have my opinion here, based on what I have seen in the past and what I got from other people (who shall be left unnamed), and the current situation just proves my standpoint once again.
If you don't want to face the truth, I'm fine with that, but this place is certainly not going to be a better world by just standing still and trusting in people who have not cared too much (which they even admit) about the site in the last 4-5 years.
Anyway, to not derail this thread too much: This is a fun track. Reminded me a bit of TIM: Contraptions, which has a track called "game show". Pretty similar.
Quote from: JojoQuoteRight, I might not have been around here during MPC's zenith when adminstrators like MisterX still cared about this place, but what have our awesome administrators done since the last crash? Exactly 0% IMO. I am neither the site owner nor an administrator, so I cannot do much about that apart from fiddling around with a new experimental site - and until it goes live, nothing else is going to be done by the current administrators.
Jojo if you want to do more for the community than code I'm pretty sure there are things you can do.
There is more to a community than the admins and site owner. They just offer the framework that the community gathers around.
Quote from: "uncloned"Jojo if you want to do more for the community than code I'm pretty sure there are things you can do.
Did I miss something?
- I'm providing one of two download mirrors
- I maintain the german MPT wiki (yeah, not useful for most of you, but it probably
is the most extensive MPT documentation, next to Harbinger's docs)
- I am working on a new site for OpenMPT
Plus, what I do for the tracking scene / demoscene community in general:
- I moderate The Mod Archive
- I moderate Nectarine
- I try to host tracked music compos at demoparties where there are no tracked music compos anymore (for example Breakpoint)
What I offer to the scene is quite a lot (IMHO), and this is most likely becoming more over the next few years. The MPT community is just one little part of this. I might not have the money for donating another server for keeping up the ModPlug Download Central, but that's why there are more people than just me caring about this place and offering their resources and spare time.
Well, yes you are doing a lot - most of this I didn't know.
However, what I said about it being *everyone's* community still stands.
I do think being positive (even if it seems difficult) will have better chance in improving the situation than being negative.
Quote from: "uncloned"I do think being positive (even if it seems difficult) will have better chance in improving the situation than being negative.
Well, hiding (or trying to hide) the fact that nobody of the current administration team seemed motivated enough to really bring the site back to life did not work that well over the last four years - don't you agree?
Quote from: "uncloned"Jojo if you want to do more for the community than code I'm pretty sure there are things you can do.
Uncloned, seems as if you're trying your best to get some flames here. But about the quote, I think it would be good if coders wouldn't have to do everything -- there quite enough work in the code itself.
Quote from: "Relabsoluness"I think it would be good if coders wouldn't have to do everything -- there quite enough work in the code itself. And I'm sure that Jojo has done a lot more than just coding.
I agree. At issue here is definition of community.
People here I see regularly contributing are you, harbinger, phishock, sam zen, lpchip and jojo.
But just because the admins would be AWOL doesn't kill the community. We are all the community.
Do I think things could be better with the site, of course. But I don't think MrX is the single cause for the decline of MPC.
And I'd like to point out that not only was my hosting the modplug downloads at best tepidly received it was the subject of a number of complaints.
Not to step on anyone's toes so I'll speak of this one experience. What incentive would I have to do more?
You guys coding may feel the same. (Do I sound like I come form Chicago or what??? )
That isn't MrX's fault - and that is also a point.
The malaise here goes far beyond the admins.
i feel so used.... :cry:
there there, lemme give you a hug, you'll feel better :D
(http://i43.tinypic.com/24q7mo7.jpg)
Harbinger, where should I look in order to find out more about your music?
Well, thanks for the interest!
I was going to suggest you look in my member profile to get a list of what we've done, but apparently all of those old links are DOA. Now that the uploaded material has been moved over to uncloned's excellent site SoOn, i will have to go back and redo the links. But for now i'm on limited time since i have to come to the library to get any internet work done...
If your talking about a website, i have none and will never have one (Yjana may do one for hers later though -- she's been talking about it). Yes,yes, "dude, you need to get with the times, EVERYONE's got a website," i know, i've heard it all before. But we here at Aeon don't do the conventional thing. If you want a history of our little vband, search these forums for "Aeon," i made a post a couple of years ago about us. Other than that, PM with other, perhaps more detailed questions. But Aeon has always been barely a band, more like a figment of my imagination that has been around in one form or another since 1987 (i still have the old mock-ups of our first logo!), with members coming and going, passing thru in their lives. We're strictly studio, and the only thing constant about it is me -- and my drummer i guess, since she's been with me since '92. :)
O right, and about the piece:
Some of the sounds sound "plain" raw sample like, others seems to be more "vibrant" VSTI like. The most important that everything fits together, and you archived that. I like the dynamical funky lead and the occasional pitch slides. Some crazy variations here and there (in a good way). Nothing to say about the percussion work, its truly perfect as always. I didnt liked the ending :D, i would listen to it for about 4-5 minutes at least. It feels as you just cut everything in half, some more prolonged and proper deduction would be more appropriate imho.
Yeah, but we're lucky to have finished it at all. This one was started, then shelved, then when we came back to it, it sounded inspired enough to finish it, even tho it was only an "educational" piece. Between the two of us (me and Yjana), we have a hard disk full of incomplete songs. I'm trying to push to get some of these done, if anything just to give each original idea its place in the universe...