I can make a NSIS installer with the last version of openmpt.
I think that is more "professional" for a software project, distribute it with a installer...
..and i like help modplug project, because i use it =)
So far I didn't have had any problem with installing OpenMPT. Besides that, even if the process would go in a smoother way, one often have to pay the price : the dreadful 'registry' gets involved. Or an installer with no thorough 'custom' options, no way.
The argument of "professional" is a bit ridiculous, because OMPT is already very professional. Meaning a solid product, with high accessability and quality, made by real craftmanship.
yeah... i know that my argument is ridiculous xD, but:
- options can be the platform, instalation dir. and the initial configuration (like sound, vst dirs)
- the only registy key that you need is for the uninstall program
i never said that the openmpt isn't professional, i only want help with the project... and i think that a installer is better for the user..
if you want to help with the project then adding to the wiki is a very good thing :)
as for an installer, I'm not sure it's necessary. I think that people inclined to use a tracker would be fairly experienced with computers anyway... but a beginners pack (actually there used to be a beginners pack, perhaps there still is somewhere?) would be nice, with some example modules.
Yes, the old QuickStart Kit was very popular. It would be great if someone could be in charge of a new QuickStart Kit.
The problem with the QSKit is that the MPT.exe file has to be updated every time there is a new release, and since it was all compiled into an installer, it made it incovenient to keep it updated.
The old QSKit contained the Tracker (of course) along with Aryx.s3m as an example module, a text format of the MPT Tutorial, a *.DLS file for MIDI import, some free VST effects and a couple of free instruments.
Is anyone up to making a new QSKit?
Regarding installers for ModPlug I would like to reccomend Inno setup who is a very stable and simple to use installer creator ... and btw it's free:
http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php
Quote from: "MisterX"Is anyone up to making a new QSKit?
sure, I'll take a stab at it. I'd like to help in anyway I can. I've got the old QS around my comp somewhere, I can dig it out.
Things I'd like to add to it:
-A categorized (Brass, Drums, Drum Loops) list of sample websites in html format.
-more samples, VSTs, and VSTis. I can think of a few 'starter' synths that would work great.
-A new demo song. Aryx was ok (Who wrote that anyway? I need to give them credit for their samples I used in Instrumentation), but it didn't show all the effects that could be used (especially since the updates)
Anyone want to help me with this?
Whatever you do, try not to make the filesize too big. People do not want to download 50 mb for a program that is 2 mb by itself.
Quote from: "LPChip"Whatever you do, try not to make the filesize too big. People do not want to download 50 mb for a program that is 2 mb by itself.
if they do, they will download buzz :)
i would definitely suggest including sfz among the vst, and a couple small soundfonts.
maybe we can get the board regulars to compose a few short smalltunes that showcase some of mpt's strong or unique features (like hipass filter, alternate tempo method, macros), and that use the included vst/samples.
Quote from: "LPChip"Whatever you do, try not to make the filesize too big. People do not want to download 50 mb for a program that is 2 mb by itself.
Of course. I'd focus more on the catergorized sample site list then actual samples. I speak from knowledge when I say this:
I don't know how many of you (IF any) knew this, but I make simple computer games (nowhere NEAR LPChip's studio or Tolworthy's). It's so damn funny, because the game making program includes a few sample images and whatnot to use. And just about everyone's first game uses some or all of those images. I don't want this to happen with modplug (even though I did it with Instrumentation) so we'll put more focus on a sample list.
@snu: sfz? Sounds familiar. Can't quite remember what it is, though.
As for sample songs, I'll do one. Or even better, if you've ever seen Renoise tracker, they've got sample songs AND tutorials.
sfz is a soundfont player vsti, best one out there that ive seen, and probably the most widely used.
Don't forget about the legal aspects... If you include plugins, samples and/or modules, be sure to check with the authors first. Free doesn't always mean you are allowed to distribute it.
Right you are, SGF. I'll put together a list of plugins that should go in, and start contacting the authors.
Alright, for now, here's what might be going in:
>sfz
>LFX-1310 (My personal favorite)
>FreeVerb Too
>Synth1
>Triangle II?
And here's an example of what I'll be sending out to the FX authors:
QuoteDear (Author Name),
You are recieving this email because your exceptional(plugin/soundfont/etc.)(name of plugin/etc.) has been selected for inclusion in the Modplug Tracker QuickStart Kit.
Modplug Tracker is currently one of the leading freeware music production programs available. If you choose to include your plugin with this software, it has the potential to be seen by hundreds or even thousands of people.
Of course, as the author of this excellent (plugin/soundfont/etc.) you will recieve proper credit. Please reply with your answer as soon as possible
--Bret M. AKA SoundCrafter
Also, since Hard-Tex was the main contributor to the "Samples" topic, I'll ask him what his personal favorites are. Remember we need to cater to a large audience, not just what you write.
Tell me what you think.
Oh, and @LP: Your comment about 50mb for a 2mb prog is true, but have you ever downloaded winamp? They load it with so much *good* crap that you practically HAVE to download the 7.2meg premium version! That's kinda what I want to accomplish here, but obviously, I won't be going above 10megs+...Hopefully.
sfz? why?? use ompt sampler for this..
sfz is much, much better for soundfont usage than mpt.
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"Don't forget about the legal aspects... If you include plugins, samples and/or modules, be sure to check with the authors first. Free doesn't always mean you are allowed to distribute it.
I have already received permission to distribute the MDA VST Plugins, I had requested permission for the first QS Kit.
http://www.mda-vst.com/
Quote from: "MisterX"I have already received permission to distribute the MDA VST Plugins, I had requested permission for the first QS Kit.
http://www.mda-vst.com/
oh yah! the mda vst's are excellent, and cover a very wide variety of plugins in a small file size.
northpole is another very nice plugin that i think was included with the qs kit too?
also, once aciddose finishes a release version of xhip, it would be a very nice vsti to include; very small and packs a punch: http://xhip.cjb.net/
unfortunately, its still under heavy development.
Quote from: "SoundCrafter"
Oh, and @LP: Your comment about 50mb for a 2mb prog is true, but have you ever downloaded winamp? They load it with so much *good* crap that you practically HAVE to download the 7.2meg premium version! That's kinda what I want to accomplish here, but obviously, I won't be going above 10megs+...Hopefully.
Guess why I don't use WinAmp? :nuts:
How about making the quick starters kit which is somewhat small, and an addon pack for the quick starters kit with some more examples and plugins?
Quote from: "LPChip"Quote from: "SoundCrafter"
Oh, and @LP: Your comment about 50mb for a 2mb prog is true, but have you ever downloaded winamp? They load it with so much *good* crap that you practically HAVE to download the 7.2meg premium version! That's kinda what I want to accomplish here, but obviously, I won't be going above 10megs+...Hopefully.
Guess why I don't use WinAmp? :nuts:
How about making the quick starters kit which is somewhat small, and an addon pack for the quick starters kit with some more examples and plugins?
Well jees, LP! I have DIALUP and I use winamp. Good idea on the addon though. We'll use the MDAs and a site list for the QS kit.
Quote from: "MisterX"I have already received permission to distribute the MDA VST Plugins, I had requested permission for the first QS Kit.
http://www.mda-vst.com/
Ooh...Really good call.
Quote from: "MisterX"Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"Don't forget about the legal aspects... If you include plugins, samples and/or modules, be sure to check with the authors first. Free doesn't always mean you are allowed to distribute it.
I have already received permission to distribute the MDA VST Plugins, I had requested permission for the first QS Kit.
http://www.mda-vst.com/
The original QuickStart Kit is here:
http://www.roncli.com/modplug/download.asp?FileID=8
I had to confirm that it did include the MDA Plugins, as I wasn't 100% sure. As it turns out, it did, but we had to "give props" to the author in the installer:
QuoteMDA VST plugins created and provided by Paul Kellett
paul.kellett@maxim.abel.co.uk / http://www.maxim.abel.co.uk
When a new QSKit is developed, I will be happy to host it on the MODPlug downloads server, and we can also link to mirrors on other sites. "MODPlug Quick Start Kit" and "MODPlug Beginners Kit" are searched a lot on the site, so it would be great to have it to offer again.