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Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: uncloned on November 03, 2008, 04:00:18
except a touch of guitar - all korg MS2000

another experiment in controlling the synthesizer and trying to learn how to compose electrically - where tone color is equal to notes.

http://clones.soonlabel.com/mp3/clones-child-labor-022602n.mp3

(http://clones.soonlabel.com/tis/labor.jpg)
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: psishock on November 03, 2008, 04:11:39
So, you've decided to walk on the path of synthesis, young skywalker? :D

This sound more ambient-like stuff that "plain" electronic, but it totally drives me into your charm. Nicely done. I could swear that i've visualized out of this word images, while listened to it.
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: Sam_Zen on November 03, 2008, 05:40:07
copied comment from the SOF :
Well, I consider this a really electronic composition. Not directly so much for the used sounds, but regarding the development of the piece.
Nice graphic btw.
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: uncloned on November 04, 2008, 01:00:09
Hi Sam,

Can we discuss the sense of development?

I essentially arranged patterns of sound with a little bit of effects here and there. My thought was to go for "impression" and in this case I'm not as pleased with the middle that sounds more like non-ambient music.

Development in a classical sense usually (usually!) means taking a melodic theme and either presenting it in different environments or developing variations.

Chris
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: uncloned on November 04, 2008, 01:06:34
Quote from: "psishock"So, you've decided to walk on the path of synthesis, young skywalker? :D

This sound more ambient-like stuff that "plain" electronic, but it totally drives me into your charm. Nicely done. I could swear that i've visualized out of this word images, while listened to it.

Thanks for the listen!

I'm unsure of genre's and don't understand the genre explosion. I saw a map of electronic music genres and it looked like the Balkans!

The MS2000 presents a wider palette than my Casio CZ-101 - which in a way makes it more difficult if I'm going to use it as I'd like.

I think I'll be exploring this synth for many years to come!
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: psishock on November 04, 2008, 01:47:02
Quote from: "uncloned"I saw a map of electronic music genres and it looked like the Balkans!
oh, your discovery makes me feel unwittingly proud. :oops:

I wish you many great times with your MS2000, i'm adoring the sound engineering, explorations as well. Sound synthesis is a whole other world than "plain" sample based tracking, but i admit, both can be really fun.
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: Sam_Zen on November 04, 2008, 02:39:13
Relistened : I guess what you mean with the middle part, having more plain default synth sounds with gliding effects.
I don't mind, because it's a stage with the right duration, changing back to more abstract forms in time again after ~3:30.
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: uncloned on November 04, 2008, 03:18:04
Sam, seriously, what are you seeing as development?

Is it a MUX concept?
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: Sam_Zen on November 04, 2008, 03:28:57
Not much to do with MUX. Develelopment literally in the course of time-envelope of the song.
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: uncloned on November 04, 2008, 04:14:55
is this to say then "not flat"?
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: Sam_Zen on November 05, 2008, 01:26:48
'Flat' associates with eq things, but with 'time-envelope' I firstly mean volume.
The envelope as a curve of 'tension' of the song.
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: uncloned on November 05, 2008, 01:34:00
ok, yes, tension

that is the ultimate distillation of classical, and probably any, time based art

tension and release

I think I understand - thanks!
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: Sam_Zen on November 05, 2008, 01:43:42
Nice notice. Indeed, when dealing with tension, one also have to choose moments of release.
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: Harbinger on November 08, 2008, 16:05:45
Notes as i'm listening:

Child-Labor:
I love the excellent production of this piece! The beginning is like a robotic monk doing his morning rosary. Then Emerson-Lake-Palmer take over with their early synths for a little partita! About 3 minutes in, you think drums are about to come in, but no, it's just inner rumbling...Further on, whatever you thought were notes end up being only vague images of them, twisted distorted into miscarried chords, as if Dali were a composer of electronica!
I normally don't go for this kind of music, but i was entranced....it shall serve as inspiration to me in current opi...
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: uncloned on November 09, 2008, 02:24:46
Thank you Harbinger!

I really appreciate your description - it is cool to hear my music through someone else's ears and mind.
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: bvanoudtshoorn on November 09, 2008, 13:01:10
I really enjoy your forays into this kind of stuff, clones. I can tell that you're really enjoying exploring your synth in this track -- the melange of sounds, and the way mutilate them like a monkey with a chainsaw carving ice sculptures is really cool. :)
Title: [electronic] child labor (mp3) korg ms2000
Post by: uncloned on November 09, 2008, 17:10:48
Quote from: "bvanoudtshoorn"mutilate them like a monkey with a chainsaw carving ice sculptures is really cool. :)

Thanks! I think :-)