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Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 10, 2009, 00:58:10
(http://www.traxinspace.com/pub/123320/44418_m.jpg)



I was fooling around with different instruments for this movement and liked this version.

I must admit I feel humble tonight with two great pieces being uploaded. This sounds worn and tired in comparison. (But then the basic music is some 11 years old to me so... in a way it is.)

http://clones.soonlabel.com/mp3/sonata6m1-harpsichord.mp3
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: Sam_Zen on August 11, 2009, 01:09:39
Neat work. I'm fond of the harpsichord sound..
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 11, 2009, 01:28:15
Me too. The lone comment I got on traxinspace is:

by noahcohn
I would enjoy this a lot more if the sampled sound wasn't so harsh and digital.. i usually try to soften them with chorus/reverb/EQ..

That I don't see... but... whatever.


Thanks for the listen and comment Sam!!
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: psishock on August 11, 2009, 03:05:49
hey, isn't this...? :D
My opinion, this melody don't fit with the harpsichord's hard sound (i like the harpsichord as an instruments, it's just don't seems to fit here), but with any soft sound like softened piano, also i would slow the piece down a bit, but i guess it's all personal.
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 11, 2009, 03:14:10
Of course another interpetation would be great :-)

With the piano I was using it sounded like too much blur from the pedal marks.
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: TheEagle on August 11, 2009, 07:40:50
Enjoyed!
The harpsichord is definitely not one of my favourite instruments (I would prefer a nice sounding piano), but I think it fits the melody here...

Nice work, Mr. uncloned.
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: Nahkranoth on August 11, 2009, 08:47:02
I agree with psishock that the melody is not for harpsichord, but I like it so much that I would listen to it even if played on wooden spoons :D
Anyway I'm glad it's not piano.  :wink: to The Eagle.

QuoteThe lone comment I got on traxinspace is:

by noahcohn
I would enjoy this a lot more if the sampled sound wasn't so harsh and digital.. i usually try to soften them with chorus/reverb/EQ..
Weaklings :evil:
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 11, 2009, 11:13:21
Quote from: "Nahkranoth"

QuoteThe lone comment I got on traxinspace is:

by noahcohn
I would enjoy this a lot more if the sampled sound wasn't so harsh and digital.. i usually try to soften them with chorus/reverb/EQ..
Weaklings :evil:

ROFLOL!!
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 11, 2009, 11:13:49
Thanks for the listens and comments!!
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: Louigi Verona on August 11, 2009, 11:29:57
Hm. This situation is not new for me too - each time I present someone with a harpsichord piece they say they would have preferred a piano. I really believe it has something to do with people not being used to a harpsichord. In my opinion, the melody fits the instrument quite fine. I also strongly believe that if it would've been done on a piano, the impression would be pretty different.
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 11, 2009, 11:57:11
ok,

Here is the piano version for comparison

http://clones.soonlabel.com/mp3/sonata6m1-piano.mp3
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 11, 2009, 11:57:52
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"Hm. This situation is not new for me too - each time I present someone with a harpsichord piece they say they would have preferred a piano. I really believe it has something to do with people not being used to a harpsichord. In my opinion, the melody fits the instrument quite fine. I also strongly believe that if it would've been done on a piano, the impression would be pretty different.

Its a shame because the harpsichord is a wonderful instrument.
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: Louigi Verona on August 11, 2009, 13:08:26
I second that. But I was told by one musician once that harpsichord requires a lot of ornamentation to really sound good. I am not sure if it is true.
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 11, 2009, 13:12:53
I would say it requires ornamentation to sound baroque... which was a period in music where *everything* had lots of ornamentation.  People in general probably place the instrument in this period - which was the height of its usage before the piano took its place.

Lots of pop music since the 60's have used a harpsichord sound w/o ornamentation.
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: TheEagle on August 11, 2009, 15:56:28
I'm feeling a bit ashamed, but after I've compared both versions I definitely prefer the piano-version...:oops:
Unlike other classical (orchestra) instruments, a harpsichord sounds simply 'old-fashioned' to me.
Quote from: "Nahkranoth"Anyway I'm glad it's not piano.  :wink: to The Eagle.
*lol*:D
Quote from: "uncloned"Lots of pop music since the 60's have used a harpsichord sound w/o ornamentation
Uhmm...at the moment I really don't remember pop-songs which have used a harpsichord.
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 11, 2009, 18:06:42
Tori Amos (Blood Roses) and The Beatles (Fixing a Hole) come to mind immediately - The Doors keyboardist used a tone similar to harpsichord too... actually I think that was clavinet and on that note the clavinet is a copy of the clavichord an old keyboard (Renaissance) as well.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavinet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavichord

Back to the harpsichord

QuoteBut in the 20th century it made a resurgence, used in historically informed performance of older music, in new classical compositions, and in popular culture.

....


During the second half of the 20th century, the sound of the harpsichord (or perhaps rather more often, its electronically-created equivalent) became very familiar in popular culture, appearing frequently in popular music, television, films, computer games, and so on.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harpsichord
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: TheEagle on August 11, 2009, 20:22:25
QuoteDuring the second half of the 20th century, the sound of the harpsichord (or perhaps rather more often, its electronically-created equivalent) became very familiar in popular culture, appearing frequently in popular music, television, films, computer games, and so on.
Well, ok. But I can't help myself: every time I listen to a 'real' harpsichord (like Tori Amos "Blood Roses") I 'see' some funny clothed and powdered guys wearing this ridiculous white wigs... :D
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 11, 2009, 20:27:33
banish the thought!

much prettier than Hayden!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEkcSN2dlMQ
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: TheEagle on August 11, 2009, 22:24:40
Quote from: "uncloned"much prettier than Hayden!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEkcSN2dlMQ
Yes, indeed! And she knows the vulcan salute (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulcan_salute)...:D

Btw: the name is "Haydn" (without "e"). :wink:
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 11, 2009, 22:35:36
thanks!

case in point

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Haydn_portrait_by_Thomas_Hardy_%28small%29.jpg)


or


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a1/Tori_Amos_piano.jpg/180px-Tori_Amos_piano.jpg)
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: Sam_Zen on August 12, 2009, 01:13:17
When I hear a harpsichord, I must think of "Mountains of the Moon" by the Grateful Dead.. :)
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: bvanoudtshoorn on August 13, 2009, 02:04:37
I like this, Clones.

Weighing in on the piano/harpsichord debate, it may also be that the fact that you can actually have dynamics with a piano is influential in people's opinions: the harpsichord, playing at constant volume, requires a change in the actual notes played to effect a distinction between dynamic levels.

I personally really like the harpsichord sound, but for some reason I always find myself stymied when I try and write a harpsichord piece -- maybe it's got something to do with the fact that I'm a pianist, and I'm too fixed in my piano ways to know how to really make use of what the harpsichord *does* have, rather than being frustrated by what it doesn't.
Title: [classical harpsichord] sonata 6 m 1 (mp3)
Post by: uncloned on August 13, 2009, 02:12:44
Thanks Barry for the listen and comment!

If you'd like to try your hand at the piece I can email you the midi.