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Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: Saga Musix on May 09, 2007, 13:38:48
Full Version:
OpenMPT v1.17.2.46

Description of the bug:
Okay, at least i consider that as a bug.
The mix level is set to RC3 for every module that doesn't have an own mix level set. Old modules however tend to overdrive with that setting easily. And you can't change the mix settings for MOD files at all...
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: rewbs on May 09, 2007, 17:48:24
d'oh sorry - fix coming soon.
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: Saga Musix on May 09, 2007, 19:02:00
thanks, that would be great :) it really is not possible to listen to modules that were not saved with OpenMPT :D
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: rewbs on May 13, 2007, 13:46:03
Please confirm this is fixed in 1.17.02.47
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: Saga Musix on May 13, 2007, 15:54:42
It's fixed, but i have to lower the preamp value to almost nothing, the standard 33% that worked for years are still too loud.
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: LPChip on May 13, 2007, 20:44:56
I guess its not fixed then?

I'll set the status to Open again. Rewbs, if you think this is incorrect, feel free to change it. :)
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: Saga Musix on May 14, 2007, 12:40:50
right. the RC2 behaviour is the way it behaved for years.
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: rewbs on May 27, 2007, 16:45:46
Quote from: "Jojo"i have to lower the preamp value to almost nothing, the standard 33% that worked for years are still too loud.

Hmm I can't reproduce this. If I load a track with "original" mix levels and play it with 1.17.02.47 and the pre-open source MPT (1.16), I get about the same output levels in both versions with preamp at 33%.  Could you provide a testcase or give more details?
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: Saga Musix on May 27, 2007, 19:47:51
it works with every module file i got. In openMPT, the preamp slider is at the second line from bottom (VERY LOW). i get the same volume in Modplug 1.16 when i move the slider to ~50%...
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: rewbs on May 27, 2007, 20:30:31
Quote from: "Jojo"it works with every module file i got. In openMPT, the preamp slider is at the second line from bottom (VERY LOW). i get the same volume in Modplug 1.16 when i move the slider to ~50%...

I'd appreciate if you could send me a testcase just to confirm we are looking at exactly the same data. Meanwhile, if anyone else can reproduce, let me know..
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: Saga Musix on May 27, 2007, 21:05:54
okay, I uploaded the smallest mod i could find :)
(link removed, no longer neccesary)
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: Saga Musix on May 27, 2007, 21:25:40
i think it's fixed in .48
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: LPChip on May 27, 2007, 21:46:26
Quote from: "Jojo"i think it's fixed in .48

Okay :)

Closing this one. If it seems that its not fixed, then feel free to post so it can be reopened again. :)
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: Saga Musix on August 25, 2007, 20:46:18
hm, after listening to some old modules, i found the current behaviour still irritating... the global volume of a standard MOD is 128 (can't be changed) which is okay. but most modules tend to overdrive, they're always in the red part of the VU meters. It sounds okay at a global volume of 64 (which won't be stored). So i would suppose that the "original" mix level will be half as loud to 2/3 of the current volume.
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: LPChip on August 26, 2007, 10:23:07
I've reopened the bug for you.

Maybe we should just use the old mix settings? Not RC1, RC2 nor RC3?

Or ofcource, we can set global volume to 64 for modules. :)

I always use a global volume of 64 when I work with RC3 because everything above is just way too hard.
Title: .46 Mix Level set to RC3 for old modules
Post by: Saga Musix on August 26, 2007, 15:15:26
RC2 mix levels sound best to me, they come pretty close the the volume of original MPT. But of course, the "fallback mode" should still be "Original", but maybe with half the amplification (but not half the global volume, because that's normally set to 128 in any tracker - except for openMPT rc3 :) )