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Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on November 03, 2008, 03:50:39
(http://psishock.lpchip.com/pictures/signalchain-aura.jpg)

Alright, looks like im on fire with finished posts lately. ;)
I think my oldest Renoise piece is finished finally, i've had to wait till now with it, because i wasn't prepared mentally to finish and develop this piece until recently, also i had to upgrade my hardware to hold up all the pretty layers and sounds. So even now, this piece barely can play realtime on my new intel e8400 core2duo, overclocked @ ~4.4ghz :D (someplace cant even play fluidly with this atom reactor x)
This is my biggest project till now, worked and brained many days on it, but enough talk, enjoy the trip!

Signal Chain - Aura
http://psi.lp1.nl/music//SignalChain-Aura.mp3 (http://psi.lp1.nl/music//SignalChain-Aura.mp3)
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: Sam_Zen on November 03, 2008, 05:48:41
Quite powerful parts, could be made longer, sloppy ending.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on November 03, 2008, 06:21:55
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"Quite powerful parts
yup, tech-trance means something quite powerful and technical sounding.

Quote from: "Sam_Zen"could be made longer, sloppy ending.
but of course! I've just warmed up the mood, the main part should get extracted right after the song got cut here, i'm estimating about 5-6 minute runtime for this tune. This is not the end of it, i can assure you. =)
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: Sam_Zen on November 03, 2008, 07:26:43
Yep, I noticed 'progress piece'.
So first of all, the intro has a lot of potentials, so could be prolonged ( > 30 secs) without getting bored.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on November 03, 2008, 14:28:39
Quotethe intro has a lot of potentials, so could be prolonged ( > 30 secs) without getting bored.
hmm, these comments from the "outer listeners" comes actually very handy. I'm usually listening to the same piece of song over and over (for days) when i'm making it, finetuning every inch of it, so i could get bored without fast, technical changes, but for someone that never listened to it, the storytelling can go a bit slower, i agree.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: Saga Musix on November 04, 2008, 16:35:41
nice composition. i agree that this has to be much longer. :)
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: KrazyKatz on November 19, 2008, 21:39:11
Hey Psishock.

I don't always get around to commenting on everyone's works due to always being insanely busy, So now that I have half a chance I just wanted to mention that all the works I've heard from you have astounded me.

Definitely a wizard in the Electronic genre. Looking forward to your full finished pieces. :D
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on November 19, 2008, 22:21:31
Thank you KrazyKatz! :boogie:
This fills me with confidence, i'll get myself and compose a bit more right away. ^^
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: KrazyKatz on November 19, 2008, 22:46:54
Good man  :wink:
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: uncloned on November 20, 2008, 01:41:16
this is much more interesting than the usual trance piece

very dramatic - sort of has a bouncy feel to it.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on November 20, 2008, 01:56:36
Quote from: "uncloned"this is much more interesting than the usual trance piece
Well, the Signal Chain project of mine is aiming for everything but "usual" trance. The genre needs to be reformed a bit nowdays imo. :D I'm trying to be creative and variable as possible, to keep the listeners interest.

Quote from: "uncloned"very dramatic - sort of has a bouncy feel to it.
Indeed, you've got the "message" ;). One of the most obvious keys of this sounding (and the most of my recent works) are the carefully managed volume envelopes on every channel and sound. I takes a quite while, together with speculation, to figure out when should the sound attack in the given situation and when should i release it, but it's very enjoying to make and the result is rewarding. :D
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: Sam_Zen on November 20, 2008, 02:11:57
2nd listen
Intro has the right length, according to the moment of the introduction of the low kick.
Very nice balanced stereo position of the sounds.
Just when I get into the flow, it's cut off... aarrgh..
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on November 20, 2008, 02:20:15
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"Just when I get into the flow, it's cut off... aarrgh..
I'm working on it :oops:... together with more tunes in a same time, depending on the given mood... It's just my working style, a bit unorganized yes, but this way, i will never feel that i've rushed some parts of any songs (every moment is important), and can listen to WIP pieces with fresh ears.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: bvanoudtshoorn on November 20, 2008, 08:56:26
This is great, Psishock! :D I really enjoyed it. Only one thing -- is it just me, or is there a slight right-channel bias? I think that your ping-pong delays all go right first. Or something. :)

When do we get to hear the full version? ;)
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on November 20, 2008, 12:40:51
You have very sharp ears Barry if you have noticed even this :D. You are absolutely correct, indeed they "all" go right atm.
I'm balancing the DSP effects this deep level only in the final mixing, when composing the piece is all finished.
(i wanted to ask you, do you know, by any chance a delay VST, that changes the direction with every new note received (without the need of external workaround from the composer), but yet again i've realized that it's impossible :D. How can the poor delay VST separate the pure new notes from the jungle of processed sounds rushing to him? I'll probably end up using more instances and good old workarounds again ;) )
QuoteWhen do we get to hear the full version?
This year, i hope! :o (month and a half to finish it, so i must go haste =)
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on August 28, 2009, 18:50:22
hehe, looks like i haven't managed to do this in 2008, but we have a huge update now, check the first post for details. ^^
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: Rakib on August 28, 2009, 20:58:50
Beatiful!
Must say though that I liked the melody parts most but overall a great song.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on August 28, 2009, 21:05:31
hey Rakib, long time no see! ^^
I'm glad that you've liked it, also i've noticed that you're intending to Route258 compo on n2k, care to share a demo here? Im curious, what do you have at this moment. :D Don't worry, i will stay quiet about it ;), and i'm leaving that compo out, focusing on finishing my album with full power. Cylum and Icy, both are very good producers, will be hard to beat them, but hey, practice always comes handy anyway. Good luck matey.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: Rakib on August 28, 2009, 23:27:33
Did you hear my entry for the 4 strings compo? Didn't get so far with it, but my entry was the only one which can be called radio edit and not super trancy(bpm 126)

But yes I'm working on a remix for the new compo song, this time more trancy and uplifting. I will give sneak peep when the song is starting to get finished.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on August 29, 2009, 01:20:36
yes yes, i've heard it. Wanted, but forgot to comment over time, but now i've managed it. :) Thought that the new compo piece was more closer to finish, oh well, i can wait. :wink:
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: Zaphoid on August 31, 2009, 00:32:49
Very wide stereo sound.  I love the intro piano part.  Very beautiful.  When it drops into that plucked string part it just leaves me breathless.  Lots of different sounds flying around my head.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on August 31, 2009, 09:21:07
Quote from: "Zaphoid"When it drops into that plucked string part it just leaves me breathless. Lots of different sounds flying around my head.
sure ^^, that was the "main act" and it has many melodies flying everywhere on stereo spectrum, but i've arranged them carefully, so they don't interfere with each other or the main melody, but give a nice, warm texture like feeling. I guess the keys, for similar "warm" sounding are: unison, lfo-s, interesting wave forms, fast filters and constant automation everywhere.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: Zaphoid on August 31, 2009, 12:41:27
I don't have the patience to produce music with that precise method.  I have to simplify to keep the inspiration flowing.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: Zaphoid on September 02, 2009, 02:52:29
Quotei had to upgrade my hardware to hold up all the pretty layers and sounds. So even now, this piece barely can play realtime on my new intel e8400 core2duo, overclocked @ ~4.4ghz Very Happy (someplace cant even play fluidly with this atom reactor x)


Have you ever heard of bouncing your tracks to wave?  Do you use a DAW or just Renoise?  Mixing down your track about half way through can drastically reduce your cpu footprint.  I do it myself using buzz and Reaper.
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: psishock on September 02, 2009, 06:04:34
Just Renoise, no burning need for additional DAW, i can manage to work with fairly shorter wavs like even a few pattern long vocals example pretty accurate too here, do the mastering, etc. It's a little tricky to render out any track for final, in my case, 'cause i make changes and automation like all the time in the song, even near the end, so i need to have most of the stuff in "midi" form. Noting is really fixed, even the kick, hihats, bass and the leads are changing too all the time (you can mayb spot that almost everything is automated, "lfo-ed", so routed back to the actual vsti).
I could however sometime use a temporary "freeze/unfreeze track" feature withing production, that would make listening the very cpu intensive scenes in realtime more comfortable, but that will most likely make sense when Renoise will get an inside wav-streamer feature. That way the whole wav could be picked up from anywhere within the song, dont have to play the whole pattern all the time, or do tiresome workarounds like giving an offset for every note in every single row.
(wav-streamer is most likely the only big lack of feature that would "force" me to use an actual DAW, if they manage to implement it in the next big release, you could really do everything inside, even work easily with very long, recorded live instrument sessions, or that temp freezing/unfreezing channels for reducing realtime cpu usage)
Title: [melodic tech-trance?] Signal Chain - Aura (mp3) full
Post by: Harbinger on September 11, 2009, 17:11:33
Notes as i'm listening:

Starts out as New Age, with an excellent forest of piano notes, that lends me to believe it's foreshadowing itself. Then the compressed rhythm introduces itself to the sonic soiree (the compression is slightly --and obviously intentionally -- too much, but makes for an excellent sonic texture that captivates the cochlea). Then the piano comes back for its scene, but dressed in a perfectly hi-passed filter. The following filterwork tries to keep the beat but eventually, everyone must regroup -- that's not good for dancing.:( But it's the composers right to give you a breath!
At 6:00 i thought all that needed to be done was done, but a reprise of the piano keeps you floating until the beat can merge into the starry melody. The next movement at 8:00 had just the right amount of energy to keep us from getting saturated. The Tech trance begins about 9:00, but the Classic Trance won't just go. The last two minutes are a nice exploration of sonic scrubbing designed to clean you of all of your daydreams, and remind you that your head isn't high, but rather your feet are low....Overall an EXCELLENT production. Here psishock's talent is overshadowed only by his skill. This is why i call him our Elder of Trance! 8)