So I loaded VSTi Delay Lama (http://www.louigiverona.com/webarchive/samzen/download/delay_lama.7z), assigned it to FX01 in the General tab, and made it nr 01 in the Instrument tab.
Opened the GUI with Edit of the General tab. Now the plugin can be played with the pc-keyboard.
5 different monks can be chosen as preset. Actually variations of the parameters, like echo and higher harmonics.
So I wrote some notes, jumping 8 rows, in the pattern. When played back, it was not the same as the keyboard.
The notes just kept sounding, without the fading out of the echoes.
I added a "=" stop code before the next note, but it didn't help, just an abrupt stopping. So now what ?
(http://i44.tinypic.com/286x007.png)
I noticed at 'Parameter' in General tab 4 different ones :
80: PortTime - 81: Vowel - 82: Delay - 83: HeadSize
How do I call them and set some value ?
Just tried it, Sam, and everything works fine, when note stops, i can hear the delay line fading. Maybe you're using some older OMPT version?
About parameters, you can change vowel and every other parameter in realtime, all you need is to automate them. Press Zxx in Pattern View, click on the slot of the macro for example SF0 (Set Filter Cutoff by def.)
Modify macro and Type should be now:
0 (SF0), Contol Plugin Param...
Now in Generate Macro panel select plugin, which param you want to automate.
Now in pattern view enter some notes, and in the effect col. type "SF0".
Now you will see in status bar the description of effect:
Set active macro to 0: param 1 (Vowel)
Now in that channel you can automate the vowel using zxx or \xx command :D
Sam, do you actually hold the keys in the instrument tab for that long? cus if you just quickly press the key, you should put the == right after the note: like so:
C-4 01...
==
...
...
...
If thats still to late, try SC2 as effect on the note.
Thanks a lot.
My version is build .53, so nothing wrong with that.
I didn't hold that key for that long of course, I just wanted to stop the sound before the new note.
I read here '=='. Maybe I did wrong because I used a single '='..
Quite some procedure here with a lot of new items and codes, so I will learn them step by step, taking the time.
uhm, what? Note-offs are always shown as "==", not as "=". :)
Sorry for the confusion. I typed a "=", but I didn't notice that it's shown as a double one in the example.
Sam,
I'm really looking forward to what you will be able to do with a bunch of VSTs and VSTIs!! :-)
Yep, me too..
I'm already wondering how I could manage to let these different monks sing together via multiple pattern channels.
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"how I could manage to let these different monks sing together via multiple pattern channels.
By using multiple instances of DelayLama, since this VSTi is not multitimbral.
Exactly. Just load the VSTi several times.
I see. Assigning the VSTi to several FXnn. Then instrument 1 can be preset different from instrument 2.
Do you guys know about this?
http://www.nashnet.co.uk/experiment/
it is Revisit which puts a tracker with an IT interface into your DAW like a VSTi.
To be honest I've not used it.
But in combination with Reaper (which looks a lot like Sonar) it could interest people happy with tracking but would like the graphical audio mastering ability like Sonar - all for free.
http://www.reaper.fm/
(they want you to pay $50 if you like the fully functional download)
I just had a look at the page and it claims that reViSiT is the first tracker with dedicated surround sound options. How old is reViSiT? I doubt that it's older than ModPlug's quad surround feature.
Quote from: "uncloned"Do you guys know about this?
Yep.
But we have proper trackers with VST(i) capabilities, so basically its useless in the end (in my point of view).
Quote from: "Jojo"How old is reViSiT?
hmmm, it's been on the net for some time (can be years?) but i doubt 2, that it's older than (o)mpt.
Psi,
I don't use a tracker unless I want easy sample playback at multiple frequencies.
Having that as a VSTi could be useful in my Sonar environment - or Reaper
ic Uncloned, i found the tracker environment very much satisfying for my work/needs, but i can understand that other hosts can have their own benefits too. Even can be easier and/or faster to work on them, from some possible point of view. That's where reViSiT is getting interesting for people, who are used (on the older days) to the tracer interface.
Hi Psi,
When I'm in Sonar I can cut apart performances (or midi) into pieces of any length and then move them around in time + tracks and build what sounds like a considered composition from a series of improvisations. In that sense Sonar is really powerful and a tracker could do it, but with difficulty (I've done it).
Reaper could do that from the look of it.
But I still don't want to give up OMPT - especially the microtonal aspect.
Is Sonar a host too ?
But of course, one of the best sequencers in the market (hmmm, no...i should say, one of the most popular. The "big ones" are almost identically powerful nowdays). I'm sure you will remember this name "Cakewalk".
Hi Sam. I had a similiar problem with this vsti. I had no control over the volume no matter what I did. I believe I was using version .46 at the time. In the end, I routed delay lama to a vst effect called classic eq, which I did have control over. It worked. I find that some of my vsts and vsti's don't work that well in modplug, but it is a minor annoyance, for the most part, modplug handles vsts, and vsti's very well. Most of the leads in my songs are vsti's, and as well as the bass lines, I use some samples for drums, and sf2 as well for other things. I use mostly vsts for effects.
If you go to my website,
http://www.7161.com/css_artist.cfm?user=7842
you can hear delay lama in the tune called, "The Return". The vsti is subtle, and not used extensively, but should appear about 3/4 of the way through the song. It is routed through classic eq, which in turn is routed through a vst called skidder. I ended up with the desired volume and effect.
By the way, the grungy sounding guitar with the ping pong effect in the "The Return" is processed throught a vst called Elottronix XL, which always turns itself off when the song ends. You have to turn it on every time you want to hear the song. Maybe it's a bug, maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Sorry if my post is a little late and irrelavent.
if the plugin doesn't accept MIDI volume, you can change the volume using the dry/wet ratio.
2 tvdude Nice work with The Return. And, apart from the monk, a very good production anyway.