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Title: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Asdfguy86 on September 06, 2018, 02:55:59
Hello!

I have noticed that since about 10PM EST yesterday, TMA hasn't been online since, or at least gives a connection timed out error every time I try to visit. Is it down for maintenance, or is something else going on? Myself, I have just wondered what's up regarding that.
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: fuzion_mixer on September 06, 2018, 08:03:26
https://twitter.com/ModArchive_org/status/1037389459447275521
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Asdfguy86 on September 06, 2018, 11:02:23
Hmm.... hopefully this gets sorted out.
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Saga Musix on September 06, 2018, 19:41:33
Don't worry, it will.
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: ida on September 06, 2018, 21:20:15
Until then, Saga's been doing a great job at keeping TMA alive over on SoundCloud (https://soundcloud.com/user-116132637)!

I legitimately have no idea who the person behind this account is but it's hilarious how up to date they are on all the TMA memes and drama:

(https://i.imgur.com/MN1wwHw.png)
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Saga Musix on September 06, 2018, 21:27:42
What the actual fuck.
(you are not helping one bit by engaging with impostors, by the way)
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: ida on September 06, 2018, 21:47:55
I wouldn't say they're an impostor, rather someone satirizing TMA and it's culture by making a shitpost account. There's only three uploads on the entire account that are actually modules, two of them being meme garbage that i PM'ed them, one of them being meme garbage that fuzion_mixer PM'ed them.
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Saga Musix on September 06, 2018, 21:56:37
Taking my profile picture is not satire (certainly not of Mod Archive) and even legally questionable. I don't want to be part of any memes that aren't even funny. It's easy to take my dedication for the scene for granted, and I certainly don't expect any admiration or anything in return for it, but making fun of me is certainly not going to help keeping my spirits high.
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Rakib on September 06, 2018, 22:39:12
Not very funny. Can someone report this dude?
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Yomaru_Kasuga on September 07, 2018, 02:05:32
When is the Modarchive is down this year, because of working maintenance? As you can see that there's a current outage has been investigated? What is the reason for?
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Saga Musix on September 07, 2018, 07:06:53
As the status page says, the reason is that there is a server issue that we are currently unable to fix ourselves. It should hopefully be resolved today, though.

Also, another thing regarding fake accounts: A former administrator of The Mod Archive once created an impersonated twitter account of a fellow member. While it may be "obvious" to the outside that it's not the real account of that person (still some people were tricked into believing so), this can cause a lot of pain for the person being impersonated. In contrast to that story, I don't even know who is impersonating me so don't even know why they do it. Don't like the way I'm doing somthing? Say it publicly. In other case, there's no need to make fun of me. By engaging with such an account, you are implicitly telling them that what they do is okay, which it really is not.
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Midori Mizuno on September 07, 2018, 12:10:29
Yeah, i agree with Saga on this one
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: fuzion_mixer on September 07, 2018, 12:18:18
I don't think the guy has any intention of satirising or imitating you. To me, it seems as though he genuinely does it for fun, nothing else. Memes need not be born from hatred, nor should it be generalised as such. If people feel like it, they do it.

I'm sure he doesn't have a motive to impersonate you other than "It's just for fun" because we all do that sometimes. Don't assume that he has a problem with you. While I agree creating a whole Soundcloud is a bit too much, it's not uncommon to see it happening (since we're on the Internet).
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: ida on September 07, 2018, 12:39:54
I agree, it's not that they're directly making fun of you, more that you just happen to be the main admin/screener on TMA. If it were anyone else, they would've used their profile picture instead. But it looks like it's already been fixed, so what's the point? And they've """impersonated""" me too as i am also a screener, so some of the modules have a text in the description that mentions who "uploaded" it. Some of them were supposedly uploaded by me. Which i don't mind at all because i personally do see the humor of this and i think it's funny the person behind the account recognized me as an upload screener in the first place. :P You're not really setting yourself up well by being pissed about it, it only leaves more content for this person to satirize...

If there were nothing wrong about TMA, there wouldn't be this satire account mocking TMA, tracking, Yomaru, screeners, and the rating system. Maybe the discussion should be about that and not about the ethics of copying someone's PFP. ::)
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Midori Mizuno on September 07, 2018, 15:32:11
Tbh, maybe I should add that in fact i have kind of mixed feelings about this, and on one hand I can empathise with the fact it feels like it's a wrong thing to do, but on the other one, as long as memeing like this isn't detrimental to the presence and functioning of whoever or whatever has been satirised and memeified, i think it's best to get over it and not make a huge fuss out of it, since it usually only makes the drama worse. But yeah, it depends on where one's threshold of meme tolerance ends.

Also if Saga's really that concerned about it, it might be a good idea to put a note on TMA, stating that there are/were occurences of fake accounts/sites that claim to be related to TMA, and only the ones listed below [put a list below the note] are official
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Asdfguy86 on September 07, 2018, 22:47:45
On the subject of this fake soundclown account, I also have mixed feelings. I doubt whoever is actually running the thing is doing it in a harassing nature, but I still don't get why they are doing it.

Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Yomaru_Kasuga on September 08, 2018, 02:03:41
If we know that, and it will find out, when the Modarchive website will be back soon for next month or next year?
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: Asdfguy86 on September 08, 2018, 03:17:12
Saga said that the site should be back online soon.
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Quote from: Saga Musix on September 06, 2018, 19:41:33
Don't worry, it will.

Since my question has been answered, I'll go ahead and lock this thread.
Title: Re: Is ModArchive down?
Post by: LPChip on September 08, 2018, 14:22:15
Although the topic is locked, I do want to point something out here regarding impersonating someone else.

Even if you do it for fun, it is never something you should do. If the legal system becomes involved somehow, you can be guarenteed that a form of punishment will follow (like a fine or even jailtime).

Many web admins follow legal actions which means that your account will be banned, even if it was only a joke or prank or whatever.

This is just not okay, no matter what.

Impersonating someone else really is a big thing, and if I ever find out someone does that on a website or service I manage, you can guarantee that I will ban the crap out of you, no excuses, and no, its not going to be a temp ban either. Perma ban. If you have it in you to come up with this kind of actions, then you are dangerous.