(http://www.traxinspace.com/pub/124416/44883_m.jpg)
My son told me about this program:
http://www.reddit.com/r/WeAreTheMusicMakers/comments/9viu3/opensource_extreme_timestretching_application/
which can stretch music to incredible lengths - I believe up to year lengths are possible.
This has been a subject between us since he told me about the Beethoven symphony stretched to 24 hrs. Most software doesn't do a good job at such extreme stretches - however Paulstretch is the ticket.
As a first go at this I took my song "Break it Down" which is about 5 minutes long and stretched it to 1 hour and 3 minutes in length.
I think it sounds interesting - something to have on in the background while doing other things. All of the textures are expanded - the drums become waves crashing on a rocky shore. The music obtains tremendous depth.
on line play (low quality mp3)
http://www.traxinspace.com/song/44883
download (low quality) 38 megabyte mp3
http://clones.soonlabel.com/mp3/break-it-broken-60min.mp3
download high quality ogg file (which will stream in the latest version of Firefox - a very nice feature.)
http://clones.soonlabel.com/mp3/break-it-broken-60min.ogg
as an aside:
I have a private music email list and I'm considering reducing the number of posts here and to other sites. If you'd like to join the list please PM me. It will feature my music and the music of others that I find interesting and wish to share. Thanks, Chris
Thanks for the tip, Clones ! Looks very interesting.
I think using existing work, which takes some minutes, than stretched to hours, is one side of the approach.
If I like this app, I will shift this approach to another field too, and will try to make a complete piece of some minutes
from a very short sound sample.
Listening, and zapping the ogg one : very impressive result !
It is a very impressive program!
The path I wanted to go with this was composing a tune specifically with the end result through this program in mind.
Very right, I entered into the same idea I think :
Knowing the consequences, composing a piece as a short instance containing sounds in a quick order for example.
Still, quite some settings, like the algoritms and the harmonic sliders, have to be tested.
The quality of the rendered result is excellent, even at 16 bit.
Edit : My thanks to your son !
Last night I've done some experiments with PaulStretch and the results are beautiful.
I've tried different styles of sound material, e.g. a short song with percussion, and telephone voices.
I used a sample of 9 secs, and wanted to see the maximum stretch :
(http://i35.tinypic.com/b6qc83.png)
OT - I'm not into VST things, but the same author, Nasca Octavian Paul, also made quite a complicated soft synth :
ZynAddSubFX (http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/)
and that VSTi is microtonal and free!!!!! awesome!!!
I hope 285 years is enough to satify LV's slow club.
I am waiting for you to share something!
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"OT - I'm not into VST things, but the same author, Nasca Octavian Paul, also made quite a complicated soft synth :
ZynAddSubFX (http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/)
I love this synth, but it kinda crashy on windows machines. Those with Linux or whatever can use it to full potential tho. Lucky bastards :D
Yeah, this is a great piece of software judging from track by Chris, but I can't compile it under Linux yet. Contacted the developer...
WINE *might* work for now while you are waiting for the reply.
I was able to get Csound to work under WINE. It was a bit kludgy but you can't argue with success.
Clones, Beautiful tune ! I listened to all at work. Excellent ! This software is realling interesting too ! Thank you.
Very interesting track. One could think that this not a stretched-to-death tune at some points, mostly because of the great harmonics. I've heard of Paulstretch before but never got around really trying it out myself. I guess it would be the perfect tool for RWP... ::)
By the way, while we're at enlisting stuff Paul has done... Paul's Sound Designer is one of the coolest synths I've ever seen, but it's for DOS (not a plugin). It comes with some really nice sounds and I have almost only used sounds I generated from it for my track "HardTech".
I think it's also worth noting that anything noteworthy will pop up on reddit sooner or later (usually sooner and later).
So is your note about things that are noteworthy also worth being noted on reddit? :D :nuts:
Quote from: "Jojo"So is your note about things that are noteworthy also worth being noted on reddit? :D :nuts:
Absolutely! Honestly tho, it probably wouldn't get any upvotes. So the answer is no.
Quote from: "jikoo"Clones, Beautiful tune ! I listened to all at work. Excellent ! This software is realling interesting too ! Thank you.
Thanks Jikoo
It is instructive to listen to other people's song through this. It makes the harmonic relationships crystal clear.
Quote from: "Jojo"Very interesting track. One could think that this not a stretched-to-death tune at some points, mostly because of the great harmonics. I've heard of Paulstretch before but never got around really trying it out myself. I guess it would be the perfect tool for RWP... ::)
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Thanks Jojo - it is interesting to run stuff through - but I think whole songs become tiresome as "art" quickly - what Sam and I talked about doing though may have promise.
to me this is a tool, not something that delivers end result. I want to use this tool to create pads and other samples.
Quote from: "uncloned"but I think whole songs become tiresome as "art" quickly
Yes, I cannot say that I listened to your song completely, because it's just too long and "always the same". It's a good base for ambient, but not a complete tune.
hehe. I listened to almost all of it and stopped just because I had to go away from computer. =)
I agree with LV about this app being considered as a tool.
The end result will become quite predictable 'ambient' after trying some existing sound pieces.
Unless the source file is especially composed to be rendered in this way.
BTW : this stretcher is also capable of making things shorter in time.
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"hehe. I listened to almost all of it and stopped just because I had to go away from computer. =)
I must admit the first person I thought of when I saw this was you ;-)