Several years ago (10 years ago in fact), few of us ModPlug artists got together and made a combined song. We were assigned 30 second each, and my parts are at 3:30 and 7:30. Other members included Cyborg, LPChip, Goofy, Rewbs, Ganja, Georg, Shadegate, Atlantis. The track was mixed down by myself.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69044219/MODPlug%20Artists%20-%204pat1.rar
Anyone know where I can find these past members, particularly Rewbs, Ganja, Georg? At least they were the most active here...
You should still be able to contact rewbs through the forum, dunno about the others. You can always try.
Thanks, I will see if I can get in contact with them. I'm sure I'll find ganja's real name if I plug in my 'module' drive and search for him that way. In the meantime, any word on our track? I got it wrong, we were actually assigned 4 patterns, but I think that tended to be 30 seconds each. Keep in mind this was made 10 years ago without any VST effects, though I did use VST effects (Waves) for the mixdown.
Ahhhh, this is so cool! I like how it kept the overall theme, even as you could tell that the production was changed every thirty seconds. It was cool to hear how each person added their own sort of style to the song!
I really don't know what it is, but 4pat1 just seems so awesome XD
I actually got it slightly wrong, we were assigned 4 patterns each, which is why it was called "4 pattern project 1". At the speed we used this equated to 30 seconds each (I varied it of course, haha). I'm glad you liked it! A lot of the original theme was actually created by LPChip I think!
I honestly think Rewbs did a fantastic job spicing things up! I've been trying to contact ganja since it's been a while since we've seen him.
I indeed created the idea. I often did co-op projects this way. You start a song, and you add 4 patterns to the song. But in order to work on your 4 patterns, you are allowed to change the last pattern of the previous person in any way, so you can add that transition needed to work on it. At first we were going to do just one round of all participients, but it seemed that everyone was really enjoying themselves so we went a 2nd time.
Since the whole concept is based around a number of patterns, why not provide the original module file instead of a WAV (and why not FLAC)?
http://wikisend.com/download/621612/4pat1-full.7z
10 years...
Hey Georg! :D
It can't possibly be 10 years. Wow.
roooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooobs.
What is this? A reunion?
Now you, speed-focus.
And the track, it was a very cool project. Everyone took about two weeks to work, and there was a lot of impatience. Until it was your turn, you really had no idea where you could go.
I remember Cyborg kicking it of with no direction whatsoever and LPChip steering it in a direction of his own liking.
That wasn't apparently the direction of Goofy/Nofold's liking because he re-hijacked it.
Fortunately Rewbs did not object so much and the track more or less continued.
Ganja/Speed-Focus then cruely used his powers of telepathy to realise exactly what kind of spin i wanted to put on things, and did it himself. In another 10 years i might forgive this theft.
I of course being possesed of wisdom only eclipsed by my modesty realised that continuity was so desperately needed. A cynic might mistake that for a lack of originality, but that is a common misconception. Esp. among peasents. Incorporating themes used previously in the song and ensuring respite from constant style changes and mood swings was my gift to the project.
Of course, that only invited Shadey to brutaly discombobulate the flow, but that in turn opened the door for Atlantis to deftly pick up the pieces and reconstruct them. Probably the finest point.
The second round was not quite up to the creative quality of the first one, though LPChip nailed it with his effort.
As a whole, i don't know how well it works out. It was a good project to do and be a part of. The contrast between Atlantis and LPChip's more melodious orchestration and Goof/Rewbs/Ganja/my own focus on rythmical construction is clashing rather than complementary. Some of the individual parts are rich enough to expand, but they don't truly work together so well.
Has the original thread survived the years? Or is it lost? I would love to read it.
Also, if there's any interest in music from that time, or if some is missing, i have kept much of it. No promises, but if you lost some mp3s or .its shout. I may have them.
Quote from: georg on August 12, 2013, 20:55:49
As a whole, i don't know how well it works out. It was a good project to do and be a part of. The contrast between Atlantis and LPChip's more melodious orchestration and Goof/Rewbs/Ganja/my own focus on rythmical construction is clashing rather than complementary. Some of the individual parts are rich enough to expand, but they don't truly work together so well.
I think I have to agree here.
Quote from: georg on August 12, 2013, 20:55:49Has the original thread survived the years? Or is it lost? I would love to read it.
The current forum is based on the after-forum crash started some time around 2006. You may have some luck viewing the old forum (http://web.archive.org/web/20040320031217/http://www.modplug.com/forum/) through the wayback machine, although many links there won't work... so good luck.
Quote from: georg on August 12, 2013, 20:55:49Also, if there's any interest in music from that time, or if some is missing, i have kept much of it. No promises, but if you lost some mp3s or .its shout. I may have them.
I intended to bring back some of the old modplug central downloads on a slightly more interactive website, but there are simply too many risks involved with providing hosting space for music... and let's face it, everyone is using SoundCloud/Bandcamp these days anyways, and people are too lazy even to upload their music to The Mod Archive. But if you have any old stuff from that period, I'd definitely be interested in restoring it in some way or another.
I remember that :D
Heeeeeeeey PPH!!!!
Seems like a reunion. :D
Hello peoples!
10 years? Yikes. How come I never see you guys on ICQ anymore? ;)
Quote from: Atlantis on August 09, 2013, 20:49:10
I've been trying to contact ganja since it's been a while since we've seen him.
Hello! Is it me you're looking for?
Quote from: georg on August 12, 2013, 20:55:49
Now you, speed-focus.
You spin me right round, georg, right round! Like a record!
ICQ? whats that? :P
Nah, I left ICQ behind due to the constant spamming that happened. I use msn, jabber and IRC nowadays.
Off-topic...
Quote from: LPChip on August 18, 2013, 17:34:13
Nah, I left ICQ behind due to the constant spamming that happened. I use msn, jabber and IRC nowadays.
There's a nice plugin for Miranda (Spam-o-tron) which gets rid of those spam bots - however, according to my logs, there haven't been any spam bot authorization requests for about a year now on my profile.
BTW, speed-focus, anything wrong with your old account (http://forum.openmpt.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3)? (there's a forgot password function, hint hint)
Ah cool. Installed ICQ again. Ganja, I don't seem to have you on my contact list. My ICQ id: 43823709
A reunion, indeed. I spent some years not making much music. I'm trying to catch up. I would come here from time to time, but not much. These days I decided to take a look at the forums, and found Atlantis' post. It's great to see that many of the old friends are around. :D
Quote from: speed-focus on August 18, 2013, 16:28:02
You spin me right round, georg, right round! Like a record!
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
Quote from: Saga Musix on August 10, 2013, 12:25:31
Since the whole concept is based around a number of patterns, why not provide the original module file instead of a WAV (and why not FLAC)?
Well the problem with the IT is that each adopted their own style and way of working so the balance tended to be off between tracks. I do still have the IT but I had to render/balance it a lot to get the mixdown right. I don't mind uploading the mixdown which is a 12.2 MB IT, but it possibly won't sound right, since for one it doesn't have the post-production files but also everyone adopted a different mixing style, as I said.
Quote from: Saga Musix on August 13, 2013, 00:29:32
I intended to bring back some of the old modplug central downloads on a slightly more interactive website, but there are simply too many risks involved with providing hosting space for music... and let's face it, everyone is using SoundCloud/Bandcamp these days anyways, and people are too lazy even to upload their music to The Mod Archive. But if you have any old stuff from that period, I'd definitely be interested in restoring it in some way or another.
What I hate most about SoundCloud is that it's still scumbag 128 kbps after all these years. Even people making their tracks available for download provide MP3s and it really pisses me off (aside from the few who provide WAV downloads). On the other hand, I love Bandcamp, I think it's the best thing since iTunes (which is the worst thing since Internet music). obScene/Brandon Goins started a Google Drive the other day where he plans (or at least has made a significant start) to upload past CTG tracks. I think this is quite a good incentive, and I was going to add my collection as well, but I mainly listen to FLAC nowadays (I have 40,000/1 TB and growing). The link is http://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8sXXHC0XTNjYkRnRFZDcm9yeG8&usp=sharing, but you may need to contact him to upload since I couldn't upload anything myself.
Quote from: Atlantis on August 20, 2013, 04:06:27
Well the problem with the IT is that each adopted their own style and way of working so the balance tended to be off between tracks. I do still have the IT but I had to render/balance it a lot to get the mixdown right. I don't mind uploading the mixdown which is a 12.2 MB IT, but it possibly won't sound right, since for one it doesn't have the post-production files but also everyone adopted a different mixing style, as I said.
You know, I prefer a module over (or in addition to) the postprocessed file any time. But yeah, it has already been posted, so it's no longer relevant.
And yeah, I don't really like SoundCloud either, but it seems to be what all the hip people use these days. And BandCamp is definitely the best thing that has ever happened to the music selling business.
iTunes the store or?
Not to start nothing but i have still not seen any music library app that can come close in terms of design clarity and function. Even though it changes too damn much (doesnt everything nowadays), it's still my mp3 player of choice. Yeah i know it comes with a bunch of apple crap i dont care about but a) occasionally someone with a mac or iphone waddles in the room and can hook up and b) i mostly want to have my shizz neatly sorted. I tried a lot of other stuff and it's either by far inferior or slightly inferior. Hating Apple is both free and en vogue so go ahead.
Winamp lite is fine too but meh.
And iTunes store... i dont care for it at all, i just sort and play music.
Bandcamp looks very nice. All i can say :D
The .it It was good enough to create the 4pat1 mod, so it should be good enough to play the rough unmixed version. I prefer it actually, but i have no sense.
bits.... ask my arse. I listen on shit speakers and it sounds fine. Told you i have no sense. ;)
Hello PPH, long time. :)
Quote from: Saga Musix on August 10, 2013, 12:25:31
Since the whole concept is based around a number of patterns, why not provide the original module file instead of a WAV (and why not FLAC)?
I fully agree, FLAC is far superior, but a lot of people look the other way when it comes to FLAC. I will make it a note to upload WAV files in FLAC next time, especially on a technology-literate forum as this. I know georg already provided a link but here is my latest (modified 9/08/2003 11:11 p.m.). I actually went and split the IT file up into two parts for the final mixdown since it required a lot of editing/balancing, but that would just get confusing for me to upload those. I also still have the ACD file (Sony Acid), which I used to mix the project down with Waves effects but I don't even use that anymore and don't really see the point of uploading that. Besides, it's the end result that matters, not really what effects were applied where, though I can understand people may want to look at the source file.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69044219/MODPlug%20Artists%20-%204pat1%20%28IT%29.rar
I'm actually a Winamp user, love it to bits, ever since they added their media library I've used http://www.albumartexchange.com/ to keep track of my album art. As I said I have 40,000/1 TB FLACS and growing. I was doing mastering for artists for a while but after switching meds (tranylcypromine) five months ago anxiety got the better of me. I've since started a benzodiazepine (diazepam) and things look to be improving. My Last.fm is http://www.last.fm/user/atlanteanrecord if anyone wishes to keep in touch that way. Anyway, it's great to see you again PPH, georg, speed-focus! I don't use ICQ but am on MSN. Have been thinking about you and the past a lot! Add me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/atlanteanrecords if you have it.
Quote from: georg on August 21, 2013, 00:00:45
iTunes the store or?
Not to start nothing but i have still not seen any music library app that can come close in terms of design clarity and function. Even though it changes too damn much (doesnt everything nowadays), it's still my mp3 player of choice. Yeah i know it comes with a bunch of apple crap i dont care about but a) occasionally someone with a mac or iphone waddles in the room and can hook up and b) i mostly want to have my shizz neatly sorted. I tried a lot of other stuff and it's either by far inferior or slightly inferior. Hating Apple is both free and en vogue so go ahead.
Winamp lite is fine too but meh.
And iTunes store... i dont care for it at all, i just sort and play music.
Bandcamp looks very nice. All i can say :D
The .it It was good enough to create the 4pat1 mod, so it should be good enough to play the rough unmixed version. I prefer it actually, but i have no sense.
bits.... ask my arse. I listen on shit speakers and it sounds fine. Told you i have no sense. ;)
Hello PPH, long time. :)
Hi, georg! The other day I stumbled upon some mail messages we exchanged. It was when you organized the Mimick Music Compo. Remember that? (I was looking for the source file of my entry).
I don't have it on my hard drive unfortunately but it may be on some backup DVD. I'll look for it.
Good god the Mimic Compo :D I know i kept the Sabotage stuff somewhere for a long time so Mimic materail may be in the same place. Unfortunately it would more likely be filed under "website bollocks" and not "tracker stuff - do not forget to backup".
EDIT - Well i found one DVD with things related to my old website, but no mention of Mimic only a short news item regarding a competition being cooked up by PPH. Wonder what that's about.
Most is old pages and compo results mixed with a lot of useless files. I don't know if that backup somehow predates Mimic or what.. The only compo related files are about Sabotage and April Fools Compo. I do have your excellent Arrival as mp3 but don't seem to have a trackfile of it. I dont remember if i had it or not.
As for the Sabotage compo, i'd like to thank Xaimus for talking me into letting him host the results table page which is now lost :D
Rewbs won it pretty convincingly it seems, and wins again by still having the original file uploaded and original link still alive after all these years. Holy expletive!
Back to the search though.
There are a few .it files in that bunch, but i seriously doubt any belongs to you. I will list them anyway:
telephone.it
chiptune.it
analog.it
some WIP chunk of 4pat2
(and offtrack.ogg by ganja for some reason)
Do you know the filename or some detail? I will continue to look for the file, but it may be lost afterall. I have moved and changed computers since then and not everything was preserved.
EDIT 2
Is anything here? Your Sabotage and AFC entries are :D
http://www.scene.org/search.php?search=pph&x=0&y=0
Well, "The Comeback", which was my entry, is there in ogg format. But I do have the wav and the ogg already. I'm looking for the source file, but I don't think it's possible for you to have it, or for it to be in the Internet (I should have mentioned this before; now you wasted your time). It used some VSTis and wasn't "standalone", so I don't think I uploaded it anywhere (I thought, at some point, that I had uploaded a stripped IT file to OSMusic.Net, but I think that was only wishful thinking; anyway, OSMusic.net is dead). So, don't spend time looking for it, though I appreciate a lot the fact that you took all that trouble.
There were two versions of "Arrival". The first was released as an IT file. Then I made a new one, which I released as mp3, because it used samples from a library. My wife likes that one too (at least she liked it when the listened to it once). :D
EDIT: I think the source file to "The Comeback" is in the computer in which I composed it, which doesn't have a running OS, but whose HD should be working. I intend to take a look, though it will need some work. Still, there is a lot of stuff there I'd like to have, such as my music collection from these times. If I can recover it, I'll try to make a new version, with better samples (I remember some violin hits that didn't sound well).
EDIT2: "Offtrack", by ganja! Great piece! I haven't listened to it in ages (it's in the computer I mentioned above), but remember it well.
Quote from: LPChip on August 19, 2013, 10:33:00
Ah cool. Installed ICQ again. Ganja, I don't seem to have you on my contact list. My ICQ id: 43823709
Sorry, was just joking I haven't used ICQ in years... I think my ID was 11548841 but I have no idea what password or email I used to create it so it's all gone.
Quote from: PPH on August 19, 2013, 14:01:00
I spent some years not making much music.
That's a shame, you need to get back to it! The world needs more melody enthusiasts.
Quote from: Saga Musix on August 18, 2013, 17:59:08
BTW, speed-focus, anything wrong with your old account (http://forum.openmpt.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3)?
I also have an account that's just "g". I could use that one as well. However, I think "shy artist" is a pretty descriptive status for me at this (or any) point in my life.
I'm coming back, I think. Also, I never completely stopped, but I did other things that took time away from composition, and had trouble getting used to some new tools.
It's nice to see everybody again, hope you're all well.
I'm not on facebook or anything but i'll try to stay in touch. I want to ask... Xaimus has a website so he's around i guess, Subwoofer are on bandcamp or moved on or whatever. Anyone seen Boomerang? yomi went down some time ago.
Since i've recently been digging around my old website material, i'd really like to recreate or share some of it. For nostalgia mostly :D
I'm very flattered with the success of Sabotage compo, and thank all the weird and wonderfull people who contributed to it. Apparently i especially thank LPChip, ganja, XAVT and Void Pointer. An old webpage says so :D
It would be nice to have something up. The results page at least.
Sometimes though, nostalgia reminds us how cramped and ugly things were:
(http://s18.postimg.org/5kzqgr3x5/inst_fuckt.jpg)
but also cute and blurry:
(http://s9.postimg.org/kcuukydrf/1ban_gan.jpg)
Aaaand i dug up my favorite avatar ^^
I have a few of those you mention in my list. I'll redirect them here. (talking about WaxHead, Xaimus, VoidPointer and Nifflas.)
I don't know what happened to Subwoofer nor Boomerang. Only thing I know is that boomerang moved on to renoise and was on those forums quite some time.
I saw Boomerang in the Renoise forums too.
EDIT: Which one was the Sabotage compo? Was that the one in which ganja's "Off Track" won by one point against my "Arrival"? :D (I just remembered this yesterday, but I'm not sure it was that compo).
georg: Oh god, that screenshot...