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Title: Windows 7 recording/playback problem
Post by: Inavon on September 28, 2010, 03:39:19
When I use my Windows 7 to record sounds with any program (or maybe just with the programs that I use) there is a high-pitched ringing sound that accompanies low-frequency sounds. This is noticeable in bass kick sounds and bass if there is not much else happening in the song. I also notice this when I create a low-frequency sine wave (55 Hz, for example) with Audacity and play it using Audacity. I have 2 Windows 7s, and both of them have this problem. Can anyone confirm this? Is there a way to fix this problem?
Title: Re: Windows 7 recording/playback problem
Post by: LPChip on September 28, 2010, 07:51:44
Quote from: "Trancefreak"When I use my Windows 7 to record sounds with any program (or maybe just with the programs that I use) there is a high-pitched ringing sound that accompanies low-frequency sounds. This is noticeable in bass kick sounds and bass if there is not much else happening in the song. I also notice this when I create a low-frequency sine wave (55 Hz, for example) with Audacity and play it using Audacity. I have 2 Windows 7s, and both of them have this problem. Can anyone confirm this? Is there a way to fix this problem?

If you record an empty wave, do you hear it to?

Do you hear it if you playback a silent track, or is it part of the recording?

What soundcard do you have? Are those 2 windows 7 installs on 2 different pc's with different hardware?

I'm looking into where the noise gets part of your sound. Is it during playback or during recording?

I run Windows 7 too and have no issues.
Title: Windows 7 recording/playback problem
Post by: Saga Musix on September 28, 2010, 12:25:35
At least it certainly isn't a problem with Windows 7. It could mean that your soundcard / onboard sound sucks. :P I was thinking of aliasing noise first, but that would be strange if you would still encounter it also in f.e. OpenMPT with Polyphase interpolation enabled. A recording of this noise would certainly help to identify the cause.
Title: Re: Windows 7 recording/playback problem
Post by: Inavon on September 28, 2010, 22:29:47
Quote from: "LPChip"
Quote from: "Trancefreak"When I use my Windows 7 to record sounds with any program (or maybe just with the programs that I use) there is a high-pitched ringing sound that accompanies low-frequency sounds. This is noticeable in bass kick sounds and bass if there is not much else happening in the song. I also notice this when I create a low-frequency sine wave (55 Hz, for example) with Audacity and play it using Audacity. I have 2 Windows 7s, and both of them have this problem. Can anyone confirm this? Is there a way to fix this problem?

If you record an empty wave, do you hear it to?

Do you hear it if you playback a silent track, or is it part of the recording?

What soundcard do you have? Are those 2 windows 7 installs on 2 different pc's with different hardware?

I'm looking into where the noise gets part of your sound. Is it during playback or during recording?

I run Windows 7 too and have no issues.
I forgot to mention, this problem does not occur with MPT.

If I record an empty wave, I will not hear the sound. It's most noticeable with low-frequency sounds.

I will not hear it if I play back a silent track. It only occurs when there is sound.

I use Realtek High Definition Audio.

I noticed that if I export my sine wave and play it with windows media player, I will not hear the ringing sound. However, if I record sounds and save them, the ringing sound will still be present.
Title: Re: Windows 7 recording/playback problem
Post by: Saga Musix on September 28, 2010, 22:38:28
Quote from: "Trancefreak"I use Realtek High Definition Audio.
Well... no comment :P

I think you're dealing with aliasing noise there. Are you, by any chance, working with 8-bit samples? It sounds like the application you're working in has no interpolation enabled.
Title: Windows 7 recording/playback problem
Post by: Rxn on September 30, 2010, 17:40:26
Some hardware, like Audigy 2, is locked on a certain samplerate, 48kHz in
case of Audigy, all the other formats have to be resampled in this case.
Title: Windows 7 recording/playback problem
Post by: g on October 01, 2010, 05:28:16
I'd like to hear an example, it's hard to describe sounds with words.

Quote from: "Rxn"Some hardware, like Audigy 2, is locked on a certain samplerate, 48kHz in
case of Audigy, all the other formats have to be resampled in this case.
That's not something you'd hear that clearly tho.
Title: Windows 7 recording/playback problem
Post by: Saga Musix on October 01, 2010, 11:32:18
Quote from: "g"That's not something you'd hear that clearly tho.
I wouldn't be too sure about that, this sound chip is ubiquitous, which means that it's rather cheap.