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Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Saga Musix on April 01, 2010, 13:29:16
Dear community,
it's a tough decision, but also a very important decision. The current main developers (that is Relabs and me) had a long chat for the last few days and we came to the conclusion that it just doesn't make sense anymore to develop OpenMPT. Today, there are much better and easy-to-use solutions available like Renoise or also Reaper. OpenMPT just can't survive in this world anymore. Therefore, we decided to halt OpenMPT development and also remove the sources from sourceforge.net in about a week, as they're of no use anymore.
This might come as a shock to most of you, I know - But let's face it: It was about time. We really had a very long discussion with many important arguments for and against this step. I've summarized the most important arguments in this document (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwGFalTRHDA). I hope you all can understand our move.
-Jojo
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Rakib on April 01, 2010, 13:58:56
A good one there :)
Cheers

Regards
-A soon to be a cubase user
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: LPChip on April 01, 2010, 14:05:17
Finally! I got tired of keeping the website up.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: uncloned on April 01, 2010, 14:43:10
my move to Sonar is finally justified.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: g on April 01, 2010, 23:26:14
Finally! I mean, it's moved from 1.16 to 1.18 in what? 10 years? Seriously, were you guys ever doing any development at all except change the splash screen every once in a while? ;)
Title: OpenMPT's Discontinuation
Post by: Really Weird Person on April 01, 2010, 23:46:32
Hmmm, Modplug Tracker is being discontinued, eh? Does anyone know of any other programs (excluding Renoise) [for Windows*] that offer more than 1,000 patterns (as this is Renoise's limit as far as I know)?

* Windows:  Velvet Studio offers 65,536 patterns, but it is for DOS, not Windows.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Sam_Zen on April 01, 2010, 23:48:18
Duh.. ::)
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Rakib on April 01, 2010, 23:50:07
I don't mind talking bs here without mpt in development. We have here a good collections of some nice people.
Title: I Must Be the Odd One Out.
Post by: Really Weird Person on April 02, 2010, 00:32:32
Quote from: "Rakib"I don't mind talking bs here

I think that everyone (especially Nahkranoth based on some of his previous posts) would side with you here except for me. I am not quite that naive. It just so happens that I do know what the acronym BS stands for in this context. It stands for profanity.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: psishock on April 02, 2010, 03:46:59
About time you guys finally realized it. All these years of desperate struggling to make it look alive, meh. It wasn't even being resurrected properly, from the time Olivier stopped the old MPT development officially. :lol:
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: LPChip on April 02, 2010, 06:37:16
Is RWP the only one who has a "different" view on the entire thing? or... :nuts:
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Saga Musix on April 02, 2010, 06:59:35
pretty much so. when will you take the forums down?
oops, it's not even april 1st anymore... Seems like what I wrote yesterday was utter bullshit! :nuts:
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: psishock on April 02, 2010, 10:27:38
what has been said, cannot be unsaid. :D
cant get away that easy. :lol:
Title: Taking Words Back
Post by: Really Weird Person on April 02, 2010, 14:59:16
Quote from: "psishock"what has been said, cannot be unsaid.

That is very true. Even though you can delete the post, it remains in your memory. Depending on what the post was, you may or may not regret posting it. Of course, in the case of everyone here except for me, posts that they regret are likely those that do not contain what would likely be categorized as unwholesome talk (profanity). That is unfortunate, but it is entirely possible that it is also very true.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: pafufta816 on April 05, 2010, 19:44:15
mpt has been my sequencer of choice since as long as i can remember.  1996-7?  almost 15 years now.  as archaic and antique a program as it is, the framework for composition and production in MPT shaped and defined the way i produce and record music.  i still use it for most of my sequencing, in Ubuntu via Wine.  before that i used it in OS X with Darwine.  RIP
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: psishock on April 05, 2010, 19:50:32
Quotempt has been my sequencer of choice
that hurt :D
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Saga Musix on April 05, 2010, 20:11:57
Quote from: "pafufta816"RIP
That too. Did you not notice that it was April 1st? :lol:
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: residentgrey on April 05, 2010, 23:53:50
Then get crackin on MPT4Nix! LOL
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Harbinger on April 06, 2010, 20:55:46
I was late to the party, and even my jaw dropped....

Don't ever do that again!! :P

Here i was gearing up for some big changes that i was going to try to make, just to find out it was disappearing...all of you may not know this, but ModPlug is the only one i (we) use. It's the best free tracker out there, as far as features and simplicity. The learning curve is shallow and now with the help manual, diving in is much easier. Because it's open-source, new users who also happen to know how to program can make improvements.

I have Renoise, ReVisiT, and even Synthfont on my hard drive, but all music gets composed on MPT, because it can get done quickly. Even though the mastering capabilities in MPT is rudimentary, i know it well enough to do all my mastering, for both my songs and Tassel of Blue's, with ModPlug.

Here's hoping it never goes away!! :cheers:
Title: OpenMPT's Discontinuation
Post by: Really Weird Person on April 07, 2010, 02:04:40
So, is OpenMPT not discontinued then? That was a good joke. I did notice that that post was submitted on April Fools' Day. I simply saw it and thought that it was legitimate. So, how many patterns does reViSiT offer? If I had to guess, I would guess 256.
Title: Re: OpenMPT's Discontinuation
Post by: Rakib on April 07, 2010, 06:16:02
Quote from: "Really Weird Person"So, is OpenMPT not discontinued then?
"NO."
Quote from: "Really Weird Person"
So, how many patterns does reViSiT offer? If I had to guess, I would guess 256.
Install it and try it out yourself.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: psishock on April 07, 2010, 10:11:29
Quote from: "RWP"So, is OpenMPT not discontinued then?
I would say "YES", "SURE", "INDEED" or simply "BINGO".

QuoteSo, is OpenMPT discontinued then?
"NO." would be appropriate for this question Rakib. :D
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: kit beats on April 09, 2010, 21:25:20
as a true tracker fan i couldnt found a better forum or topic to anounce this news for skaletracker fans.

www.skale.org

that was it to come...
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Saga Musix on April 09, 2010, 21:35:53
well, sk@le has been dead for years already...
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: kit beats on April 09, 2010, 22:43:46
Quote from: "Jojo"well, sk@le has been dead for years already...
as a user i have to agree. I'm part owner nothing to say but ok.

sad that the posts on the forum declined significantly in recent years, no news related to the free tracking software and no development anymore.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: residentgrey on April 09, 2010, 23:29:02
twas a joke and a good one Samplekit.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: kit beats on April 10, 2010, 00:26:40
i was off topic excuse me:)
Title: OpenMPT's Discontinuation
Post by: Really Weird Person on April 10, 2010, 03:54:59
'twas a joke indeed. I fell for it too. It would be nice to see native IMF support though (since it does not appear to be implemented fully yet).
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Saga Musix on April 10, 2010, 10:09:53
Can you please ignore this thread now... People are really going to be believe it if it stays at the top of the forum for weeks. :P

RWP: Can you please shut up now? ModPlug is not an AdLib tracker! You are talking about a completely different music format which happens to have the same file extension as Imago Orpheus modules. ModPlug is not an AdLib tracker, and I have told you that before. Mentioning impossible feature requests again and again doesn't make them more likely to happen!
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Rakib on April 10, 2010, 10:23:32
Same with madtracker, it's been promised for a long time now that the software was going to be open source after years of no development. But no progress has happened. I think when mad tracker will be open source we can finally finish the support for madtracker files.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: psishock on April 10, 2010, 10:53:52
Quote from: "Jojo"Mentioning impossible feature requests again and again doesn't make them more likely to happen!
Or more likely, it will make it not to happen, coz the developer will be annoyed like hell from it. =)

Quote from: "Jojo"Can you please ignore this thread now... People are really going to be believe it if it stays at the top of the forum for weeks.
The more fun for us right? :D
Anyway, if they read on, they will get the picture anyway, but you can also edit the first post any time, adding a nice, bold text that clearly says something like:  
April Fool's day joke, do NOT take it seriously.
Title: OpenMPT's Discontinuation
Post by: Really Weird Person on April 10, 2010, 23:29:13
I guess that I was unaware that AdLib trackers are different. Sorry

I did manage to get Winamp to play the files. Decoding them to waves though — I have not quite figured that one out.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: uncloned on April 10, 2010, 23:37:50
easy

play the files while at the same time recording the stereo mix (a sound mixer option on most soundcards) in audacity or something like that.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: Saga Musix on April 11, 2010, 10:59:28
or simply use the AdPlug plugin in XMPlay and use the WAV Writer as an output device. In theory it should be the same in Winamp, but I haven't used it in ages, so I don't know exactly anymore how it was done there.
Title: OpenMPT's Discontinuation
Post by: Really Weird Person on April 11, 2010, 21:44:22
I have converted from midi to wave using Winamp, but I do not remember all of what I did. As you stated though, Jojo, I would imagine that IMF would use the same (or a least a similar) principle.
Title: April fool: OpenMPT is now officially discontinued
Post by: pafufta816 on April 13, 2010, 17:42:16
Quote from: "Jojo"
Quote from: "pafufta816"RIP
That too. Did you not notice that it was April 1st? :lol:
hah!  that whole day i thought "noones played an april fools joke on me yet~!  i must be lucky?".  the whole day passed and i assumed i was cleared.  i almost shed a tear for MPT.

i realized it wasn't d/ct'ed when i saw code was still being submitted on sourceforge : )