One Voice Compo
Rules.
1. The tune must be a one voice melody, which means that only one note can be played at a time. You can use a second instrument to denote chords.
2. The tune can be of any length and can be presented in the following formats: midi, mod, s3m, xm, it, mp3, ogg.
3. The tune submitted should be composed by you and never before released.
4. The tune must be submitted before March the 1-st, 2006.
For more details, visit the site.
One Voice Compo Site (http://music.fbm.ru/)
Is it allowed to use NNA to make a sound continue? so just one channel? or is it really monotome? and if i create a bass with an pumping beginning so it sounds like a bass and a basedrum in one, is that allowed? and what about appregio's?
Quote from: "LPChip"Is it allowed to use NNA to make a sound continue? so just one channel? or is it really monotome? and if i create a bass with an pumping beginning so it sounds like a bass and a basedrum in one, is that allowed? and what about appregio's?
it is a one voice compo, not one channel, so you cannot use NNA or any other technical tricks. Also, no drums or any other kind of arrangement should be used. The whole point of the compo is to write a melody that would stand out on it's own, without drums and production. Your tune should be a tune that could be written down to a score, like pictured on the site.
You can use arpeggios as long as you don't mean the Jxx effects, but just a sequence of notes. As for Jxx, I think you now understand that this cannot be written to a score. You can try to use Jxx for denoting chords if you like, but I think it would be simplier to use any other instrument for this.
we're starting to get first entries :)
You might get one from me aswell. :) This is a challange that lies whitin my expertice.
Is it allowed to use reverb to make the single sound more dense? It will not cause major overlapping of sounds, but might get this tiny fraction...
use reverb, but not delay.
Cool. You can count on an entry with high value. :) (i hope)
remember that you can actually submit several tunes.
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"One Voice Compo
Rules.
1. The tune must be a one voice melody, which means that only one note can be played at a time. You can use a second instrument to denote chords.
2. The tune can be of any length and can be presented in the following formats: midi, mod, s3m, xm, it, mp3, ogg.
3. The tune submitted should be composed by you and never before released.
4. The tune must be submitted before March the 1-st, 2006.
For more details, visit the site.
One Voice Compo Site (http://music.fbm.ru/)
Does this mean ONE instrument as well as one note at a time?
It means: One monotome melody with a possibility of using one 2nd voice for long notes to attenue chords.
Hm. So; one main melody of one sample - which may be harmonized by ONE other sample?
But except this, nothing else?
Does it have to be an instrument?
A nice challenge, but : I like a more specific description of the 'one voice' concept.
Because a sample doesn't necessary has to mean a single tone of a sound, but a sample could also be a complete chord, a cluster of different sounds, or an instrument playing a 'riff' of several notes in time.
EDIT : I have placed an example of this use in the free music download section.
QuoteIt means: One monotome melody with a possibility of using one 2nd voice for long notes to attenue chords.
This is a very nice description!
I don't care what samples or instruments you use, just make sure that the resulting melody is monotone!
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"QuoteIt means: One monotome melody with a possibility of using one 2nd voice for long notes to attenue chords.
This is a very nice description!
I don't care what samples or instruments you use, just make sure that the resulting melody is monotone!
I think you mean monophonic.
Indeed. I ment Monophonic
But will the track be monopholyc (?) when including a 2nd voice on long notes?
Quote from: "apple-joe"But will the track be monopholyc (?) when including a 2nd voice on long notes?
No, But thats quite obvious right? It is allowed to make a monopholyc track, which just has 1 single voice on at a time.
Note that in strict monopoly sounds, you never hear the tail of the previous note. It is allowed to have a tail from the previous note, as long as its clear that its not being pressed again. (like the sustain of an arcoustic guitar)
Quote from: "LPChip"Quote from: "apple-joe"But will the track be monopholyc (?) when including a 2nd voice on long notes?
No, But thats quite obvious right? It is allowed to make a monopholyc track, which just has 1 single voice on at a time.
I think you mean monophallic.
ARGGG.. You... Shu.... :P
I did told you that English isn't my native language right? :P
Quote from: "LPChip"ARGGG.. You... Shu.... :P
I did told you that English isn't my native language right? :P
It's "I did tell" or "I have told". ;) I'm sorry, the last post was a joke, I have no idea what you meant but I'm sure it wasn't monophallic.
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"Quote from: "LPChip"ARGGG.. You... Shu.... :P
I did told you that English isn't my native language right? :P
I know, that last one was just a joke. I have no idea what word you meant.
It was me wanting to say "Shut Up" but being able to restrain myself from doing so... :P
OK, I think I finally understand the premises of this monogalic compo. One melody - but freedom to add a 2nd note if the note of the first voice is still playing. I take it we're not supposed to take advantage of this and create as many two-note harmonies as possible.
great! I'm happy we all got to the point of understanding the rules (next time I run OVC I will probably remove the second instrument showing chords thing, it only makes things complicated)
remember, only 20 days left :)
I have 2 songs ready for submission. I am probably gonna wait with one till near the deadline to make it a bit of a surprise entry :)
Quote from: "LPChip"I have 2 songs ready for submission. I am probably gonna wait with one till near the deadline to make it a bit of a surprise entry :)
The thing that makes surprises so special is that they're not expected.
Quote from: "speed-goddamn-focus"Quote from: "LPChip"I have 2 songs ready for submission. I am probably gonna wait with one till near the deadline to make it a bit of a surprise entry :)
The thing that makes surprises so special is that they're not expected.
The surprise is not what that i'm having a 2nd entry. Its the content ;)
But I guess its not that spectacular...
OK - I'm gonna have a go at the compo-idea now. I don't know how long it will last, I don't know about the outcome, but it'll be one melody ony - nothing more - and I know nothing about the outcome. OK, time to begin.
EDIT: I started out, but I will not submit this one. It's too, caotic. I might try again later.
Where's the compo website?
Quote from: "PPH"Where's the compo website?
http://music.fbm.ru/
I didn't quite succeed the last time I tried to create a track for the compo. Well, I think it's time to have another go soon. Anyone who's finished?
Heh, I made one a few hours ago, it didn't really end up as I wanted it to.
Actually, it got quite bad. But I uploaded it anyway, dont really know why. :)
well, I think it's good you uploaded it. First, you got yourself started, so next tunes may come more easy. Second, you supported the Compo - when people see there are no entries, they might think it's a boring compo :) Just submit more tunes if you are not satisfied with that one.
Guys, the deadline is March 1st, remember that!
I might have a go now. Are we allowed to upload several? Hm, helps to think that you'll have a chance to upload another one in case you create something better after the first upload.
sure, upload several.
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"sure, upload several.
As you can see on the entries list, there are 2 people with 2 tunes on (of which I am one:))
OK, I'm gonna listen to some one-instrument based classical music today and see if I'm able to gain inspiration.
however, I'm not fully satisfied with entries, since some of them do violate rules a bit - people still try to add basslines and stuff... But I think there's no point in abandoning them fully - still, they are nice efforts. If I will run next OVC, I will remove the rule of the 2nd instrument showing chords.
is apperigato allowed ?
Quote from: "Waxhead"is apperigato allowed ?
Only if you enter the notes of that appreggio fully.
(like: c4,e4,g4,c4,e4,g4, and not c4 j47)
I've submitted an attempt. I think I'll try again, as this one came out almost entirely unlike how I expected.
I've submitted a new one. This one ended up a little bit better than my first attempt - and almost as I had expected it to. :)
OK - I'm gonna submit one now, even if I'm not happy with it. I suffered from
a little lack of inspiration, but it's one voice only, so let's hope someone else got trouble as well.
EDIT: Let me say that I occasionally suffered badly from the fact that we may only use one sample.
Quote from: "apple-joe"
EDIT: Let me say that I occasionally suffered badly from the fact that we may only use one sample.
Um, if you refer sample as to the sound, then you're wrong. you are allowed to use several samples. Its best to seperate the usage of them between pieces of melodies though...
Hm - I used one sound through-out the entire piece. I don't really see any point in including several sound samples when you are not allowed to play them simultaneously anyway. Well, at least I restricted myself and got to practice using limited resources.
I expected this to be restricted to tracker things, but I read that it could also be a live recording.
So I added a short impro once made with my analog synth : Introvert.
EDIT: I checked the 11 contributions so far, and the 'one voice' concept sometimes seems to rather fuzzy.
And this collection again shows the efficiency of tracker-modules in the matter of filesize.
QuoteLet me say that I occasionally suffered badly from the fact that we may only use one sample
That's exactly what I wanted! So while you are suffering, try to put all your energy into composing a good melody. Just imagine - no more caring about the drums, the basses, the sound quality. Yeah... :)
Sam_Zen: yes, the one voice concept is in some entries kinda hidden, but you, guys from Modplug, have submitted very nice entries, which are really one voice and don't violate rules!!!
Besides, it's the first time OVC is running, so perhaps it's okay.
Yesterday I listened to a few of the entires, and I was a little shocked by the sound quality and high level of composing. Or to put it in another way; In the context, my own contribution might be a lttle vague, or random/rushed, if you want. I'll consider creating another attempt, a little more controlled/styled.
I think 1up's entry is a wow
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"I think 1up's entry is a wow
Yes, fantastic entry. However, I can hear .
many notes playing simultaneously. Yet, I have to admit that my admiration of the work exceeds the rule violation.
QuoteHowever, I can hear .many notes playing simultaneously
I think you are mistaken. 1up played a flute (it is a live recording) and flute cannot make more then 1 note at a time. Also, I listened a lot to this tune and don't hear any rule violations - he got a 1 voice flute melody and strings show chords. All's well.
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"QuoteHowever, I can hear .many notes playing simultaneously
I think you are mistaken. 1up played a flute (it is a live recording) and flute cannot make more then 1 note at a time. Also, I listened a lot to this tune and don't hear any rule violations - he got a 1 voice flute melody and strings show chords. All's well.
The strings clearly play 3 notes at once. What I understand from the rules, is that you can only have one note from a second instrument to denote the chord. So I see that as a violation. But if you can have full chords with several notes, then perhaps I should create another entry to fully put the possibilities in place. I think having a chord makes it easier because your melody will allways sound better. If you have some empty parts (like in 1up's intro) its not empty anymore. Even better, using counteracting chords with an inversed melody line will get an exciting feeling upon listening. With a one note for chord attenuation, you can't get that.
Quote from: "LPChip"The strings clearly play 3 notes at once. What I understand from the rules, is that you can only have one note from a second instrument to denote the chord. So I see that as a violation. But if you can have full chords with several notes, then perhaps I should create another entry to fully put the possibilities in place. I think having a chord makes it easier because your melody will allways sound better. If you have some empty parts (like in 1up's intro) its not empty anymore. Even better, using counteracting chords with an inversed melody line will get an exciting feeling upon listening. With a one note for chord attenuation, you can't get that.
You misunderstood the rules.
Appearantly...
I did as well.
QuoteWhat I understand from the rules, is that you can only have one note from a second instrument to denote the chord
Chords cannot be shown with a single note!!! Chord are several notes played at the same time!!!
Your melody should be 1 voice, but your second instrument that merely shows chord changes, of course can play several notes at the same time!
Ugh... I dunno... I thought the rules were simple to get, but I quess I did something wrong... Maybe couldn't find better words...
First instr: main melody, 1 voice.
Second instr: shows chords, can play many notes at a time. Just make sure it's not a subtheme of some sort, but just shows chords.
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"First instr: main melody, 1 voice.
Second instr: shows chords, can play many notes at a time. Just make sure it's not a subtheme of some sort, but just shows chords.
:shock: :o Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh :!: :!: :!:
That simple huh? 8)
:lol:
I've still uploaded one entry only. I might deliver another one with chords in the background soon.
I've uploaded my entry. You can see what I meant by the rules of the compo. Violin plays 1 voice melody, piano shows chord changes.
I don't get it. Why is 'one voice' not the same as 'only one instrument' ?
Quote from: "Sam_Zen"I don't get it. Why is 'one voice' not the same as 'only one instrument' ?
Because one instrument may be piano - it can produce more notes. One voice is more challenging, is it not? (btw, I want to hold next compo as One Instrument, so you could write a solo instrument music, like for piano)
The idea of OVC came from listening to a lot of traditional music. It's usually a song, so it's one voice, since a man's voice can't produce chords. And usually a song is accompanied by chords. There's the idea. I was adviced, next time I run OVC, not to include that chord rule, since the melody can be harmonised and chored in various different ways, so it's not essential, only gets things complicated.
:)
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"
Because one instrument may be piano - it can produce more notes.
And so might people do in this compo, obviously. One backing note/chord + one melody note sounds like several notes to me. Hence the confusion I think.
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"One voice is more challenging, is it not? (btw, I want to hold next compo as One Instrument, so you could write a solo instrument music, like for piano)
Yes, but it would be even more challenging if one could apply one note at a time - what so ever; meaning no backing music. However, the next compo idea sounds very interesting. One instrument compo - and you're free to do what ever as long as you stick to that instrument, correct?
Quote from: "Louigi Verona"The idea of OVC came from listening to a lot of traditional music. It's usually a song, so it's one voice, since a man's voice can't produce chords. And usually a song is accompanied by chords. There's the idea. I was adviced, next time I run OVC, not to include that chord rule, since the melody can be harmonised and chored in various different ways, so it's not essential, only gets things complicated.
:)
I see. I've gotten a certain interest for classical music lately myself. I have listened mostly to rock, blues and some funk - even jazz. Not much classical, however, but I'm about to change it. I'm interested in music theory, and I'd like to explore the approach of the classical masterminds.
Ant news about the compo?
Today is the last day to submit your tunes!!!
aw snap, i wanted to write a violin piece for it, but was lazy... oh well...
well, if this works out well, I will start a similar compo, so you'll have your chance, Snu.
OK, what will happen now?
we will all wait for the judges to do their work. many people I have contacted while the compo was still running declined due to various reasons, so I have to find additional people for this. The results may take some time before appearing on the site.
also, you may all be ready to join the next compo, which I will run soon after OVC. :)
I'm sure we'll get to read all about it in the next issue of cheap newspaper, right?
:D ah, you still remember my small project... nah, dunno... I kinda thought that not really many people read it, so why bother... But I was always very touched, when ppl told me they liked it. I quess I just got a little bored with it and needed a challenge, so I started OVC! ;)
How many will judge the songs? 1,3,5?
Any progress on the judging?
I could find only 3 people to judge. 2 have handed in their votings, one is awaited somewhere later today. I will also probably manage to hire the 4-th and 5-th judge today - some people whose opinion on music and whose tastes I admire. If not, there will be only three...
I think it's quite okay for OVC running only for the first time.
Yes.