Author Topic: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)  (Read 7838 times)

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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #45 on: October 03, 2018, 09:29:41 »
Is that the final date, or is that without the possible 2 week delay?
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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #46 on: October 03, 2018, 09:30:20 »
If you look closely at the calendar, that is the two week "delay".
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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2018, 22:07:37 »
I've messed around and came up with a small tune that I'll submit to the compo. May not be awesome, since I just rushed it together as it would've been taking nearly a month to come up with anything good :P.

Otherwise, this was a feature that I never thought MPT was going to support. I dreamed about built-in FM instruments with the same capabilities as the samples Portamento, Volume, Vibrato and the other sound-manipulating effects. This kind of made the dream come true, cuz I had hopes for 4-op FM.

But I understand why just OPL2/3 are implemented, since it's a feature of scream-tracker 3, so I'm not disappointed :). MPT 1.28 has a whole new sector of features ready to be explored! :D

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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2018, 16:48:07 »
A little question, since I haven't used ST3.... Is the volume-curve for the FM supposed to be exponetial compared to the samples volume-curve being linear?
I have it really tricky to equalize the volumes, especially when using volume slides.
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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2018, 17:23:48 »
Yes, ST3 sends volume to the chip as-is.
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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2018, 20:04:12 »
Ok then it's only to start practicing those techniques ::)

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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2018, 21:09:40 »
I have contemplated at least adding an optional linear mode in MPTM, but the problem is that the sample volume range is identical to the OPL volume range (well, almost - OPL only goes from 0 to 63 rather than 64), meaning that there would be some inevitable loss of precision. Maybe in the next version.
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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2018, 22:38:36 »
I can live with the exponential volume behavior :D, it's just important that the FM sounds isn't hard-volslided like the samples, or they will barely be heard. I'm still happy with this new feature (I love tracking game-inspired music with FM-flavour, which is now possible with OpenMPT). Cool!

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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2018, 07:15:03 »
Hi all, where can I listen to compo songs?

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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2018, 07:43:09 »
You will be able to listen to the songs that made it past the pre-selection once OpenMPT 1.28 is released. This may still take a few weeks, so anyone who wasn't able to submit their tune in time can of course still upload it and contribute to the release package.
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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2018, 10:32:25 »
I dont know if it is just my version of 1.28.00.31 but sometimes (and it seems in a predictable way) I get sporadic sound interpretation on these instruments, is it a glitch or is it how the instruments are supposed to behave?
You can replicate what I mean by starting a new mptm, making the first instrument an OPL, taking the modulator attack rate to 12, and playing a few chords... at first it will slide in, and if you keep playing chords it will hit at 100% sometimes then eventually all the time... the other part of the behavior, which I admit I used on one of the songs I sent means that when you track with an instrument like this and save it, the slide in will happen on the first play through in a once off way.
If that is the way it is going to behave at all times, thats fine, the song I sent will behave fine, but if not that is also fine because it would be nice to have the instrument behave more predictably. I did it earlier and hit chords over and over again and somehow it played the muffled like at the beginning of the climb and then sometimes at 100%... so yeah its a bit unpredictable in its current form.

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I admit I wasnt able to get the sporadic showing up in the tracked example and it might just be the way this laptop keyboard works or something else about how I am playing it... I put some c+f chords after those chords I played in the example in what seems like the way I play them by hand and they work fine at 100% with note cut and note off
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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #56 on: October 18, 2018, 07:01:50 »
Yes, this is how the OPL chip is supposed to work.
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Re: OpenMPT FM+PCM example song compo (preliminary deadline 2018-10-12)
« Reply #57 on: October 19, 2018, 08:44:47 »
Yes, this is how the OPL chip is supposed to work.
ok cool, got it
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