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Free Music Downloads / Re: Oldskool Breakbeat (Ompt)
« Last post by arseniiv on November 10, 2018, 21:28:02 »
Very nice sound!
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General Chatter / Re: Dealing with the music originality issue
« Last post by Saga Musix on November 10, 2018, 19:41:25 »
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I like some samples, for example Beautiful Fifths, which is made by Saga Musix and I really like it because it shows it's beautiful harmonics and I used it in some of my personal(unreleased) songs with the help of cut-off frequency setting.
One very important advice if you want to be original: Don't use the OpenMPT example song samples. I start getting tired of hearing all the beginner modules on ModArchive using my own samples. ;)

I can only stress what has already been said before: To be original, you need to diversify your knowledge: Copying other people is okay, but don't just copy one artist or one track, but take influences from many sources. We don't live in a vacuum so influences cannot be avoided (and why should they?), so the more reference material you have to get inspired from, the harder it will to pinpoint what exactly you are copying or quoting.
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General Chatter / Re: Dealing with the music originality issue
« Last post by REDrangeDal on November 10, 2018, 18:28:02 »
Every time when I do before making music is playing around with instruments/samples, and the instruments that I choose gives me different inspirations, depending of how it sounds, and also I tried that before and it worked great. There are times when I can't make a good rhythm with the instruments I like, but I will try to put more effort.

I like some samples, for example Beautiful Fifths, which is made by Saga Musix and I really like it because it shows it's beautiful harmonics and I used it in some of my personal(unreleased) songs with the help of cut-off frequency setting.

I will try to play with other instruments, as much as possible and also I made many samples using the VST Plugin Synth1 and Modern Exciter and I will make more sounds with it, because I like to learn how to make sounds, obviously with fewer parameters.   ;)

The second tip is really interesting, and I like it. I will try it. Actually I remember that I saw this tip on a webpage regarding how to make songs faster by making either remixes from some songs or a different song, by tweaking the existing rhythm.


3. This will kind of follow up tip 1. Have patience. Good progressions can come when you least expect it.

4. Have fun. Joy can have more impact than you may think.

5. Inspiration. A thing I heard about inspiration somewhere that I think is absolutely true: "Sometime you get inspiration from the weirdest things". Have you as example seen the videos of noisy washing machines that makes drum-like sounds, only then for a backing comp-track to kick in? That's their inspiration

These can also be good tips for learning the process of creating music from ground as well.

I will apply these tips with enjoyment, practice, patience and with respect, because making music is after all my best hobby I have and it makes me really happy.

Thanks ASIKWUSpulse for giving me these tips. These tips will definitely help me when I am stuck with the issue of lack of creativity or with the "songs sounding really close with other songs" problem.  :)

Also I would like to hear even more different tips from everyone who has some different approachs for making songs, because I'm finding that using more different tips will definitely open more areas, even unexplored ones for both enjoyment and creativity and everyone will be more better at music making.
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General Chatter / Re: Dealing with the music originality issue
« Last post by ASIKWUSpulse on November 10, 2018, 17:20:18 »
A few advices from someone experienced ;):

The first thing arseniiv said in his reply is the best expression

If you want to be unique, the best is to learn the not unique. Then you can branch out with trying something "that breaks the norms of music".
And trust me, it's not often it will sound good. But if you come up with something that has the right rhythm, with the right unique note progression, that both you and your audience likes, it can be a pontetial new hit-tune.

Another problem that I'm facing in periods is that you'll set too hard limits on yourself, mostly not allowing anything that isn't unique.
Most will think "but stop being so hard on yourself" about that, but I can say it's easier said than done.
Not all people will develop that behavior, but there is a fraction.
I have some tips dealing with the issue:

1. Playing an instrument can free up your mind. The "originallity mind" is often like a distinct border when you're all wrapped up with thoughts about "not that chord-progression, that artist is using that" and etc. When you start playing instrument, the mind changes in thoughts, and starts thinking about what sounds right. If you don't know how to play an instrument, a big tip is to sing or hum, it's also a kind of instrument.

2. Change notes of already made melody-lines. This is a good example of coming up with something original out of something unoriginal

3. This will kind of follow up tip 1. Have patience. Good progressions can come when you least expect it.

4. Have fun. Joy can have more impact than you may think.

5. Inspiration. A thing I heard about inspiration somewhere that I think is absolutely true: "Sometime you get inspiration from the weirdest things". Have you as example seen the videos of noisy washing machines that makes drum-like sounds, only then for a backing comp-track to kick in? That's their inspiration

These can also be good tips for learning the process of creating music from ground as well.

Hope I was to any help. I may have repeated some info
All the best, ASIKWUSpulse
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General Chatter / Re: Dealing with the music originality issue
« Last post by REDrangeDal on November 10, 2018, 17:14:59 »
We create things basing on what we have already seen, so to make something unique, one needs to introduce themselves to a wide gamut of things, possibly a bit less popular. Okay that was obvious. Also, remember that uniqueness is somewhat relative, it depends on what your intended audience knows and what it craves. They may wish for a revival of something. It means uniqueness isn’t a goal in itself, or it is a goal, but it’s hard to determine uniqueness in what, specifically, is desired. So don’t worry too much.

In these days it's really hard to make a completely unique song, but not hard to make different songs with different samples. What I know for sure is that every artist has it's influences, so making a truly original song is not really that possible, because there are millions of songs in this world, or even more, and also there are many genres of music, like rock, dance, vaporware, hip-hop and others, as well as unknown genres like Danger Music, NintendoCore and others that I haven't heard of them, and everyone has it's own tastes, but up to some limit.


I personally think, today there’s a possibility to find an audience for almost everything, it maybe just takes a bit of luck? And even your first attempts could find a liking of many.

Also maybe there’s use to randomize your process to some measure. It would disturb your habits and could show you strange new stuff. Some people are fond of an Oblique strategies-like deck, personally I don’t know, but it seems it could equally apply to writing, drawing etc.; a Tarot deck may be funny to apply. Someone throws dice, someone asks friends or reads a random word from a book.

Making music with the help of a randomized harmonic rhythm or drum rhythm is something valuable when the artists need some inspiration or some musical direction, at last that's what I think of when I don't have a good idea, because every artist has it's musical roots, that were taken from more different songs or some sound sources, so taking some musical aspects from a random musical source and improving it with other ideas is what I call a original song, but it still might not be fully original, but at least that musical piece wasn't taken from already known rhythms, and it makes me feel better.

What I should note is that there are many softwares that were made for generating music with procedural algorithms and these can be very useful for both experimenting with the combination of sounds and making some new ideas, even if they are bizzare, and also I like and procedural generated rhythms and songs.  :D

Thanks for your advices arseniiv, I appreciate your view regarding of making songs. Next time when I make songs I will not have worries, because each genre has its rules, but I think that rules should not matter that much, because everyone needs more musical variety.  :)
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General Chatter / Re: Dealing with the music originality issue
« Last post by arseniiv on November 10, 2018, 15:25:03 »
A few trivial advices from someone unexperienced:

We create things basing on what we have already seen, so to make something unique, one needs to introduce themselves to a wide gamut of things, possibly a bit less popular. Okay that was obvious. Also, remember that uniqueness is somewhat relative, it depends on what your intended audience knows and what it craves. They may wish for a revival of something. It means uniqueness isn’t a goal in itself, or it is a goal, but it’s hard to determine uniqueness in what, specifically, is desired. So don’t worry too much.

I personally think, today there’s a possibility to find an audience for almost everything, it maybe just takes a bit of luck? And even your first attempts could find a liking of many.

Also maybe there’s use to randomize your process to some measure. It would disturb your habits and could show you strange new stuff. Some people are fond of an Oblique strategies-like deck, personally I don’t know, but it seems it could equally apply to writing, drawing etc.; a Tarot deck may be funny to apply. Someone throws dice, someone asks friends or reads a random word from a book.
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General Chatter / Re: Dealing with the music originality issue
« Last post by REDrangeDal on November 10, 2018, 13:28:11 »
Thanks for these suggestions LPChip!  :)

I will try to apply these suggestions for my songs. Also I would like to add that using algorithmic music generators like Fractmus helps when dealing with lack of creativity, even if my samples might not sound really good with certain given procedural generated rhythms, depending on my mood I feel, but I will give more tries and tweaks until I am satisfied with the rhythms.

If there are other suggestions, I would like to hear them, because I like to get advices. The more advices/suggestions, the better will be, not only for me but for everyone.

Also I want to add that images can be helpful when making musical ideas. For making unique images, I use Aphophysis, a special program for making images using fractals, with the help of more options that are simple. The results are really amazing when working more with this program.
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General Chatter / Re: Dealing with the music originality issue
« Last post by LPChip on November 10, 2018, 12:52:14 »
The first suggestions I can think of is this:

1. Don't care for other music when you start making music. Just make music so you get experience. If it sounds similar to other people's music, that's totally fine. Your goal here is to understand the program fully so you can work quicker.

2. Once you know your way around the music program, make music in other styles too. Don't limit yourself to just one genre. Make music in different genres and even if it is just one song in a genre you really don't like that much, make it your own and find at least 3 genres you feel comfortable in making music in.

3. Try combining a few genres into one song, possibly at the same time to get weird new sounds. You certainly will sound unique and may become your sound.

4. Experiment with things you normally don't hear often in music.

5. Listen to other music than the few you normally listen to, and find out by your own research why this sounds so good, then adapt that in your own music.

6. Every once in a while, repeat this cycle and grow.
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General Chatter / Dealing with the music originality issue
« Last post by REDrangeDal on November 10, 2018, 12:22:33 »
In this topic, I want to talk about dealing with this common issue that new artists are facing with this problem, including me, because I believe that my songs might be bit similar with other songs.

What I want to say is that I want to prevent such issue, and I would like to hear suggestions before I will start to make more songs.

I already know some useful suggestions by searching on the Internet about how to deal with music plagiarism and there are some solutions that I know, and those are making a chord progression with more notes, changing the tempo, using samples that does sound uncommon to others and sharing with other people my songs/musical creations.

But I think that there might be other options to prevent this issue by searching some websites that are specialized in finding songs with similar chord progressions and other similar musical aspects.

The reason I make this topic is because I have an uneasy felling regarding this issue, and also I'm still beginner at music making, and I would like to hear some suggestions, advices and other things that does solve this issue.
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General Chatter / Re: I have a sketch for an OpenMPT demo-video
« Last post by arseniiv on November 09, 2018, 22:30:03 »
(Please forgive me I didn’t read the topic thoroughly.)

If one wants to make a video about the good thing, why do it have to gain an official status to be useful? I think it doesn’t. Let a hundred flowers blossom, it’s not needed to select some of them and put in the place presumed unknown to potential new users. (If they already know about OpenMPT, they could find a vid anywhere search-indexed, but if they don’t, there’s only a small count of places a small number of “official” vids can be posted before being frowned upon by communities as rightfully unabashed advertising.) Let videos be where they can be found and discussed, and let them be promoted by their authors and other users, who are many, instead of almost only the devs (to it have an official status), who are precious few.

I’m sure almost all sufficiently agree with this. :)
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